I am as of today now training in jeet kune do and american kenpo karate


what do you guys think of this training from multiple schools at the same time?


also anyone proficient in either style?


they seem to be closely related in physical mechanics/ striking styles




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the ONLY reason pretty much that i feel comfortable training multiple styles simultaneously could be done well is the fact that jeet kune do studies all martial arts

:-)

This post was edited by MrJoshua on May 19 2011 09:08pm

Who are you studying JKD under, out of curiousity?

A gentleman by name of Mr. Vito, who teaches in Florida. I asked the same question earlier:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=54897967&f=241&o=0

Joshua: not sure about the Kenpo. I do believe that Mr. Ed Parker had some good ideas; I like the concept of kinesthesiology being worked into fight science, but, IMO, Kenpo (as is usually instructed in most places I've seen) overthinks hypothetical scenarios too much.

IMO, they drill overly complex responses to a set stimulus. Most of that is going to go RIGHT out the window during adrenal dump, where the lizard part of your brain takes over. Personally, I'm a fan of gross motor skills in fight science over fine motor skills, again, because those fine motor skills go out the window with adrenal dump.

This post was edited by ChowYunFat on May 19 2011 09:45pm

Although JKD is relatively multidisciplinary, the combination is still striking heavy. If that's what you're looking for, then go for it. Even then, and self-admittedly, the striking is similar. It just seems like if you're looking to branch out, you should go for more variety.

Kung Fu and karate are both kickboxing styles, just like tkd or muy thai. The similarities are obvious even to the untrained eye.

Training multiple styles (cross-training) is a very common practice and will benefit you immensely. I primarily train bjj but I wrestle and even do a bit of judo on occasion, to tighten up my game. I also box once a week and do a lot of yoga for the footwork and flexibility.

More knowledge is always better. I can't see how cross-training could be a hindrance to your development as a martial artist. I'm no expert though.

e/ I agree with poluxation though, you should diversify more. go try grappling.

This post was edited by PRBJJ on May 19 2011 09:58pm

I challenge you young swanson,

i train tie bo and capoeira

well the similarities are what really turned me on to kenpo


i was training in jeet kune do first, and then as my new instructor introduced me to kenpo i noticed that the stance is exactly the same, if maybe not except for the side that the power hand is on


but i am ambidextrous so i try to train left and right lead as jeet kune do practices, and will do the same in kenpo


so the amazing thing to me is the similarities, i can throw in jeet kune do kicks/ distance closing punches/ intercepting concepts, and even centerline theory/trapping blocking, as well as the more intense and VITAL striking that kenpo is derived from


they both focus on fast explosive strikes so in that aspect they will not conflict


the stance should not conflict much at all


and the trapped seems to even work almost identically in kenpo/jeet kune do


the fast powerful striking mixed with trapping/grappling is my natural style, even before i was trained in any martial arts.



i see an opening and i explode into it to crush the weakest point of my opponent that i can


also my kenpo instructor doesnt really focus on the set drills as much as the techniques and overall movements implied



for the record it is american kenpo karate as taught by paul mills, which is not to be confused with some of the other branches/styles of kenpo


there are many styles of kenpo






sometimes i incorporate the stepping of capoeira to dodge strikes/counter, it seems like it is a fast method of stepping back and then returning to the same spot/power driving through it




as for the diversity, i intend to study other styles as i progress, so i thought that i should start with what is natural



i naturally trap/explode, both of my instructors have complemented me on my naturally relaxed state for whipping into punches, both of my instructors have told me i have an "advanced understanding" or reffered to me as "intelligent and understand the alterior concepts well", and the one instructor that i have made contact with told me i have good natural penetration power


i know that a lot of times they will you know compliment you to motivate you, and inspire/reinforce/elevate your mood to higher spirits, but i truly believe that the words that they spoke in regards to my ability were sincere, and i do possess in inner, natural ability in martial arts.



ive literally run up a wall like you see in a hollywood movie, in a real fight and used the wall as leverage to floor two attackers simultaneously.


that was prior to any true training in martial arts


i have a natural abiity to see and strike vital points, including joints, tendons, creases in the body where muscles are joined together, or even nerve clusters/arteries/vein clusters.






those "complex" responses in my opinion are only an outline, and you can use one single strike from mid-scenario, or if your opponent is in a pose that is part of a scenario, weither it be the beginning or the end you can start from that refference point and finish that techinique, or you can even mix techniques




you say "hypothetical" but one of the beautiful aspects of kenpo that i noticed, is that 90% of the situation is not hypothetical, when they train, their contact breaks your structer and brings you to a pose or position that allows the next strike to be implamented



most of the techniques involved hitting you one way, and then coming from the complete opposite direction and stop-hitting the same part of the body that you just moved


which stop-hits are another aspect that is shared between JKD and AKK



also it is AMERICAN KENPO KARATE


akki.com


also it is Jeet Kune Do as taught by bruce lee in his origional 4 phase system


but yes we do have belts



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8nJLcABAO0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhHJGHQlE-0

I saw a guy practicing (?) capoeira in the quad on campus a while back. I've also seen the same guy glass ball dancing.

I don't mind engaging in HONEST discussion... But bullshit like this makes me want to find you and choke you into a coma for being a silly bitch.

Just be honest with us, you've got nothing to prove or lose around here and we don't need any more trolls.

This post was edited by PRBJJ on May 20 2011 09:50am