Wof sins do 1.5k max damage per trap. The traps shoot at a short distance with a wide width. There are 5 shots per trap. Wof has a next-delay that stops it from perm stunning (1.09->1.10 change)

LS sins do 13k max damage per trap. The traps shoot a long distance with a narrow width. There are 10 shots per trap. LS has no next-delay.


In a TvT match, where stunning is only part of the duel thanks to auto-targeting minions (traps), should 1 wisp be allowed on WoF sins to even the odds vs LS sins?

without west wiz gloves, how is wof sin gonna have 102fcr c/c with wisp?
Lo valk/griff is better for that.
But yes, i'd be fine with that as a trapper. on EU tho 5%maxres/20%abs gm on cc sin.

WoF trapper not a viable char imho.

WoF nhd is only 4 frames so you can get most builds stunned with that since most chars will be at 4 frames recovery or more in a lot of instances. WoF > for stun. but the dmg from Ls is too good and can stun just as well if you are quick and good at aiming and MB.

LS wins. flawless victory.

1 wisp should be gm yes.

Amazon
FHR Frames
0% 11
6% 10
13% 9
20% 8
32% 7
52% 6
86% 5
174% 4
600% 3

Assassin
FHR Frames
0% 9
7% 8
15% 7
27% 6
48% 5
86% 4
200% 3
4680% 2

Barbarian
FHR Frames
0% 9
7% 8
15% 7
27% 6
48% 5
86% 4
200% 3
4680% 2

Druid *) hit by a 1-handed weapon or 2-handed sword held in one hand
FHR Frames
0% 14
3% 13
7% 12
13% 11
19% 10
29% 9
42% 8
63% 7
99% 6
174% 5
456% 4

Druid **) hit by any other weapon
FHR Frames
0% 13
5% 12
10% 11
16% 10
26% 9
39% 8
56% 7
86% 6
152% 5
377% 4

Druid (Wolf)
FHR Frames
0% 7
9% 6
20% 5
42% 4
86% 3
280% 2

Druid (Bear)
FHR Frames
0% 13
5% 12
10% 11
16% 10
24% 9
37% 8
54% 7
86% 6
152% 5
360% 4

Necromancer
FHR Frames
0% 13
5% 12
10% 11
16% 10
26% 9
39% 8
56% 7
86% 6
152% 5
377% 4

Paladin
FHR Frames
0% 9
7% 8
15% 7
27% 6
48% 5
86% 4
200% 3
4680% 2

Sorceress
FHR Frames
0% 15
5% 14
9% 13
14% 12
20% 11
30% 10
42% 9
60% 8
86% 7
142% 6
280% 5
1480% 4

This post was edited by jshade on Jul 30 2014 07:06pm

Lo/vex should be gm
Hotspots are bm
Dwarf are bm
Wisp should be bm (unless mutually agreed that it is okay - in the case of ls vs ls or whatever)
Tgod should never be allowed in trap v trap

bui has spoken

what about wof vs ls bui, there is a huge damage & shots fired per trap difference here.

think wisp should be gm here.

This post was edited by Gilgameshed on Jul 30 2014 07:11pm

its actually 4-3. I should have hit NO, but hit YES instead.

Im still against any max res/sorb on wof hybrids

kodabad

and you still havent explained why. It is obvious you have never played as one.

sure armadillos can become plumbers but they'll have a hard time because they don't have fingers like us