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This is the first version of the new betting guide. Things will likely be missing from this. Please post any recommendations for things that should be added in this thread or via PM.
Compliments to Pilot and all past list runners for previous guides that this one is mostly plagiarized from.These rules do NOT apply in Hockey, Soccer, Bar & Pub Games, or any other forum except for Football/Baseball/Basketball.
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umade ( http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=305906 )Table Of Contents:
Commonly Used Phrases/Terms
Safe Betting Techniques
Unofficial Bettors List_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Commonly Used Phrases/TermsUnofficial Bettors List - A compilation of Mediator, Trusted, Active, Unknown Bettors and also Welchers. Look to these Lists as guidelines when making bets. Nominations for these lists are done by members of the community. (see below for more info)Confirm - Self-explanatory. Verbiage used to confirm a bet once it is proposed. BOTH sides of a bet must confirm it for it to be valid. Common Abbreviations: cd, c/d c'd,The "cool gl" rule: For a bet to be official it is 100% necessary to CONFIRM.
Examples:
NOT a bet
Stupid Bettor 1: 100 fg on my Cowboys
Stupid Bettor 2: I'll take it.
Stupid Bettor 1: Cool gl
A bet
Smart Bettor 1: 100 fg on my Cowboys
Smart Bettor 2: I'll take this. 100 fg on my Giants. Confirmed.
Smart Bettor 1: Confirmed, good luck!Auto-Confirm - Bettor A posts that he/she is betting on Team 1, Bettor B posts that he/she will bet xxx fg on Team 2 and that he auto-confirms the bet. This means that Bettor B automatically confirms the bet for the specified amount if Bettor A confirms it. Note: Bettor A decides to bet a different amount of fg, Bettor B will have to post back to confirm the new amount for it to be valid. Common Abbreviations: AC, A/C'd. AC for such and such user.This is not recommended for new bettors. A/Cing a bet is tricky because sometimes people will confirm bets beyond the max amount that was intended by the opening poster. Be sure to clarify before auto confirming a bet how much FG you are willing to wager
Examples:
in this scenario Bettor 1 has a large quantity of FG and is looking to bet on the Raiders to beat the Chiefs.
Raider bettor: My Raiders to beat the chiefs tonight. 5000FG A/C all bets up to my max. afk
Chief bettor 1: My Chiefs 1k C'D
Chief Bettor 2: My Chiefs 1k C'D
Chief Bettor 3: My Chiefs 5k C'D
In this case bettors 1 and 2 will have their bets in first because they posted first. Each of their bets is CONFIRMED. Chief Bettor 3 will only have 3k of his bet confirmed because the opening poster has only AUTO CONFIRMED bets up to his MAX (5k).
Any posts with bets after Chief Bettor 3's will NOT be auto confirmed. The opening poster would have to CONFIRM the remaining bets. This is why auto confirming is not recommended for new bettors.Retract - Retracting a bet means that you are withdrawing your offer. Although some bettors find it annoying (and sometimes bad mannered) if someone retracts a bet after it's confirmed, but a bet can be retracted up until game time (unless otherwise specified by the bettors).
Spread - Pretty simple, really. Let's say the official spread on a game is Cleveland +5 vs. Dallas; if I were to bet on Cleveland, I would add five points to Cleveland's final score and if that is greater than Dallas' score, I would win the bet. If I were to bet on Dallas, the spread would be Dallas -5; thus, I would subtract five points from Dallas' final score and if it is greater than Cleveland's score, I would win the bet. A lot of times, you will see spreads with .5 points, this is to eliminate the possibility of a tie.
Moneyline and how to determine Odds - This is used by sportsbooks to determine odds on a "straight up" (no spread) bet. They will be posted as Team A -###, or Team B +###. Example- Detroit -110 vs Tampa Bay +120. In this case, Detroit is favored to win the game. If I were to bet on Detroit, I would have to bet 110 to win 100, thus -110; if I were to bet on Tampa Bay, I would bet 100 to win 120, thus +120. A simplified way to use Moneylines is for odds. In the example of Detroit -110/Tampa +120, if I were to bet on Detroit, I would offer 1.1:1 odds on my bets (X*1.1:X); Tampa, I would get 1:1.2 odds (X:X*1.2).
Sending Upfront - This means that in order to confirm your bet, you would send your fg upfront to the person with whom you are betting with. You should only do this with Trusted/Mediator bettors. Mostly, this is asked of bettors that have just started in the community by more established members to protect from welching. Once again, use your own discretion when being asked to send upfront. One alternative to sending upfront is using an unofficial mediator for your bet, I would recommend this over sending upfront to everybody. Common Abbreviations: u/f, uf. (send u/f to confirm) Do not send upfront to unknown users or welchers/welchers paid-back. [B]If you feel comfortable sending upfront to an Active user do so at your own risk. Remember that mediators are always willing to help.
Parlay - In a parlay bet, you bet one amount on a certain number of picks (usually 3-8) for a certain day. If you correctly pick all of the chosen games, you receive odds depending on how many games you choose. Example, a three-game parlay might have 3:1 odds, so if you correctly pick three out of three games, you would win 3x the amount you bet. The more games you choose, the higher the odds, since the probability of picking the correct winner of five, six, seven, eight or more games is increasingly difficult. Example: http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=21705284&f=201&st=0
Pick Challenge - A flat amount or a bet per game on all of the games for a certain day (or week); picks are usually done in a serpentine order (ABBAABBAAB...). Example: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=49074099&f=204_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Safe Betting Techniques d2jsp.org does NOT support Sports Betting of any kind. So, if you are welched, there's nothing the site will do for you. You are betting at your own risk.
There is a reason the Unofficial Bettors Lists are labeled as "Unofficial," they are run by members of the betting community and people are nominated by their peers. We all make mistakes on who we deem trustworthy, but for the most part, the lists are an accurate display of the community.
Do not bet with a past welcher. If you do feel the need to bet with a welcher/paid back welcher USE A MED.
Don't send upfront to everyone and their mother. Check the Unofficial List. Be Smart about who you bet with.
Use an unofficial mediator for bets that you don't feel comfortable with, that's what they're there for. If someone wants you to send upfront and you don't feel comfortable with it, suggest to use a med instead, everybody wins.
Don't overbet. Keep a good tab on the bets you have (Track the topics and label them) and how much fg you have left for other bets. If you do overbet and can't pay a bet you will be listed as a welcher.
Some people post in-game bets, or bets after the game has already started. These bets cannot be retracted and do NOT edit your posts on in-game bets, to avoid any confusion and future blacklisting, etc. If you do an in game bet make sure both sides understand the terms of the bet to avoid confusion/welcher accusations.
Be smart. Ask questions. Don't be afraid to ask someone to use a med for your bet.
Using a mediator for dummies:
Let's say two people who are unknown would like to make a bet.
Noob Bettor 1: I'd like to bet on my Bears -6 to beat the Packers.
Noob Bettor 2: I'll take this. Would you like to use a mediator?
Noob Bettor 1: Fuck yeah, that's betting smart. Please send to TJZRoCKER and post your gold logs.
Noob Bettor 2: (Gold log: Sent xxx FG to TJZRoCKER"My Packers +6 > Noob Bettor 1's Bears") Sent! Good luck!
Noob Bettor 1: (Gold log: Sent xxx FG to TJZRoCKER "My Bears -6 > Noob Bettor 2's Packers") Also sent! Good luck.
When sending FG to a mediator for courtesy purposes be sure to LABEL the bet with the game and the name of the person you're betting against. Don't over-complicate it.
Also when using a mediator BOTH PARTIES must send their FG to the mediator before kickoff/tipoff/first pitch. If ONE PARTY sends their FG and the other does not the sending party will recieve their FG back at the mediator's earliest convenience as this is NOT a confirmed bet. When using a mediator for a bet, sending the forum gold is the equivelant of confirming._______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Unofficial Bettor List:Summary - This feature of the sports forums is ran completely by regulars of the community. There are seven different groups of people listed.
Mediators- Highest on the list you will never have a problem with these users 99% of the time. They will mediate your bets for you.
Trusted- Highest on the list you will never have a problem with these users 99% of the time. Trusted are just as high as Mediator, but they prefer not to Mediate.
Active- Feel safe betting with these users. They have done many bets with no problem. If unsure always use a Mediator.
Unknown - Yet to prove themselves as trustworthy. Be safe use a med. Do NOT send large bets upfront to anyone who is Unknown.
Welcher Paid-Back - These users have welched a bet and chose to repay their welch. Once on this list you may not become Unknown+. A lot of WPB have become part of the forum community again and are actively betting; however using a mediator when betting with these users is a good idea.
Welcher- These users have welched a bet and not paid it back. It is strongly recommended to NOT bet with these users until they repay their welch. Some mediators will not mediate for welchers. If you feel the need to bet with a welcher be sure to use a willing mediator.
Blacklist- The lowest possible group of users. Generally blacklisted users have welched large amounts of FG, sold FG for pancakes, or have done something else pretty bad to land in this spot. Some mediators will not mediate for blacklisted users. Best bet; don't bet with them.
How to become Active:Active bettors are regular bettors who have earned the trust of the community. Bettors receive nominations in the "My Events" thread listed below and are then voted on by Trusted/Mediator listed members of the community. Becoming an Active listed bettor takes time so be patient. Asking when you're going to be listed and/or nominating yourself will be viewed as being a total tryhard and may count against your nomination. Actives are also NOT allowed to mediate bets. While your ambition is appreciated, we ask that mediating bets between third parties be left to Trusteds/Mediators.
Things that will help you receive consideration for Active status:GM betting practices
Betting frequently
Helping new users
Things that will NOT help your consideration for Active status:Demanding FG upfront for bets
Refusing to use mediators
Being a tryhard
BM betting practices
How to become Trusted:Trusted listed bettors are long-standing members of the Sports Coliseum community and have earned the highest status. After becoming Active these users have spent time helping new bettors and making proper bets. Actives can be nominated via the "My Events" thread listed below and will be voted on by current mediators/trusteds.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Nomination thread:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/events.php?e=129419Link to Bettor Status:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=59843159&f=201Please feel free to PM me or ask any of the other regulars if you have any questions. We always welcome new members to this community.
Big thank you to those volunteering their time to run the Unofficial Bettors Status, and also those of you that contribute to the Sports Betting community.
Hopefully with this, new bettors and those less experienced can learn how to bet safely and minimize the risk of welchers.
This post was edited by RiCCAY on Dec 20 2013 02:58pm