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Dec 28 2012 01:05am
Quote (RedStripe420 @ Dec 27 2012 08:51pm)
that's more like it, i remember you had a WR for rams 1st pick. i like the OT looks more like whats going to happen GJ  :thumbsup: .

ok now this is in my dreams but i would like to see the rams trade up with one of there 1'st round picks and maybe 3rd and 2nd from next year or something for Luke Joeckel this kid looks good man... if only we could trade up for him without giving a ton XD but that's my dreams.

shit even trade up a little for Taylor Lewan, if not Luke. those 2 guys in texas were killin it.


I still think they may take a WR in the first if they like one of them. They've missed out on a few the past few years when they've openly said they wanted one so we'll see.

Quote (hammerdanjbg @ Dec 27 2012 08:54pm)
like how you see us going all oline and dline.. we need it. hope we pick up a back and return man somewhere though.


I was thinking a back in the third but Nixon was more valuable and useful at the pick than Lacy, Ellington or Ball. I could see Bell going in the 3rd rather than the 4th, maybe even the second if he has a good combine, he's a major sleeper of mine, Colts would be nasty with a run game.

Quote (Terps @ Dec 27 2012 08:55pm)
I hope we get a good LT this year... It lookes like a deeper year for the position this year, at least deeper than last year.


Lane Johnson is fairly athletic for his massive size. Idk if he can run the LT spot in the NFL but I could see him developing into a great LT.

Quote (RADickey @ Dec 27 2012 08:58pm)
Jets will not take a WR in round 1, especially with Dion and Mingo on the board


You are STUCK, abso-fucking-lutely STUCK with Sanchez next year. You cannot cut him, no one sane will trade for him and you fucked up Tebow so you can't even bench Sanchez. You HAVE to give him someone good to throw to. Your only good receiver is Stephen Hill, you have to give Sanchez someone else to throw his incompletions to and interceptions toward. And no, I did not forget any receivers, I know your entire roster of receiver, Hill is the only viable one. This year is deep with pass rushers, don't miss the chance to get a top notch weapon for your early 2014 QB selection. Think for the future Greetings.

Quote (InuDan @ Dec 27 2012 09:28pm)
That's dope as hell.


Honest to god, didn't even rig it to have the guys fall to you haha. I checked back what you said (during last mock's update) and just noticed it so said alright, may as well go with the particular guys the Bengals fan suggested for his team since they're available anyway haha.

Quote (rdeight8 @ Dec 27 2012 11:55pm)
You think milliner will go top5? I would like to trade down a couple spots, take milliner 8-10 and stock up a draft pick or two.

Also... Read somewhere that Jarvis jones has some kind of spinal issue or something? How much will that effect his draft stock? I'd love for the lions to get him regardless


Milliner will not make it past the Titans so don't trade down too far if you want him. Taking corners early isn't such a taboo thing anymore, if Milliner has a good combine and workouts, he'll go top 5 most likely.

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Quote (hokies @ Dec 28 2012 12:02am)
Geno Smith still top 5 LOL.

(bust)


edit~  Where is Marquis Lee?  WR USC?

#1 WR


2014 broseph. Geno will go top 5 most likely, no real getting around it. Just because I mock it, doesn't mean I agree.

This post was edited by Randolph on Dec 28 2012 01:06am
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Dec 28 2012 03:42am
Quote (rdeight8 @ Dec 27 2012 10:55pm)
You think milliner will go top5? I would like to trade down a couple spots, take milliner 8-10 and stock up a draft pick or two.

Also... Read somewhere that Jarvis jones has some kind of spinal issue or something? How much will that effect his draft stock? I'd love for the lions to get him regardless


Jarvis Jones has Spinal Stenosis. It's a narrowing of the Spine and very well could effect his draft stock. It was diagnosed as a mild case, but it's basically a ticking time bomb. The problem is, when will it go boom? He could have a full career, but he could only get 2 years. Nobody really has a clue when anything could happen, it's just one of those what if things. Other players have had it and played full careers on it.

Teams will be paying big attention to it and doctors will give it the complete check up, probably multiple times. It's just one of those things we wont really know for sure until draft day. When he either falls, or doesn't fall.
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Dec 28 2012 03:14pm
Quote (Hako @ Dec 28 2012 02:42am)
Jarvis Jones has Spinal Stenosis. It's a narrowing of the Spine and very well could effect his draft stock. It was diagnosed as a mild case, but it's basically a ticking time bomb. The problem is, when will it go boom? He could have a full career, but he could only get 2 years. Nobody really has a clue when anything could happen, it's just one of those what if things. Other players have had it and played full careers on it.

Teams will be paying big attention to it and doctors will give it the complete check up, probably multiple times. It's just one of those things we wont really know for sure until draft day. When he either falls, or doesn't fall.


And even after if he falls or not, we won't know how long he lasts until it finally catches up to him.

It's a mild risk to take on the best player in this year's draft.
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Dec 28 2012 03:22pm
Quote (Randolph @ Dec 28 2012 03:05am)

You are STUCK, abso-fucking-lutely STUCK with Sanchez next year.  You cannot cut him, no one sane will trade for him and you fucked up Tebow so you can't even bench Sanchez.  You HAVE to give him someone good to throw to.  Your only good receiver is Stephen Hill, you have to give Sanchez someone else to throw his incompletions to and interceptions toward.  And no, I did not forget any receivers, I know your entire roster of receiver, Hill is the only viable one.  This year is deep with pass rushers, don't miss the chance to get a top notch weapon for your early 2014 QB selection.  Think for the future Greetings.


With us getting Braylon in FA (Sanchez favorite target) and Holmes returning to health, we aren't going to draft a WR in round 1. Especially since the Jets love Kerley (5th round pick - 53 receptions/739 - build like a stereotypical slot WR), and love Hill (2nd round pick).

Plus I believe Sanchez will not be our QB next year, it would almost be insane for the Jets to start him next season.
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Dec 28 2012 05:14pm
Quote (RADickey @ Dec 28 2012 02:22pm)
With us getting Braylon in FA (Sanchez favorite target) and Holmes returning to health, we aren't going to draft a WR in round 1. Especially since the Jets love Kerley (5th round pick - 53 receptions/739 - build like a stereotypical slot WR), and love Hill (2nd round pick).

Plus I believe Sanchez will not be our QB next year, it would almost be insane for the Jets to start him next season.


As I said, I know all of your receivers, injured ones, old ones coming back, all of them and as I said, you have 1, his name is Stephen Hill. Kerley is a solid enough slot receiver but he's no Wes Welker.

Idk how you think you won't have Sanchez as your starter next year. It's either him, whichever rookie you grab (iIn this case Glennon in the third who could very well start for you) or whichever FA you can bring in. You can't go with McElroy, he's no upgrade from Sanchez and you can't cut Sanchez, it'll cost you 17 million dollars to the cap. You can't trade him away, no one is that desperate and if a team is, then fucking hell, go for it, take whatever you can get and run and then this mock changes some. Either way, as of now, you're stuck with Sanchez and you need to hit either a new weapon for him, a run game or better protection. You don't need to go pass rush in the first this year to get a stud. You get Lemonier in the second in this scenario and he could have easily gone in the first this year if there weren't so many talented pass rush prospects or the first last year easily.

I'm telling you, get a top piece of offensive talent (the receiver you guys like the most, offensive line or Bernard so you can have a real running back) and address the defense later. And hell, Geno may fall to you guys, it could easily happen, can always grab him or Barkley and have another bust ass QB. B)
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Dec 28 2012 05:19pm
I haven't followed prospects yet, but I like the positional choices. Obviously RB is the biggest hole. Most likely need somebody to replace Jennings. Secondary will have a big hole once Woodson retires, even though Hayward and Macmillian have done a nice job this year. Not sure about OL picks though outside of Center. Saturday may not have another year left. I just don't think they have been bad. More of injury and Rodgers trying to do too much that made them look bad. Other than that, DL depth would be nice, but MM and TT would rather be roster heavy at TE and LB due to their special teams beliefs.
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Dec 28 2012 05:24pm
Quote (Randolph @ Dec 28 2012 07:14pm)
As I said, I know all of your receivers, injured ones, old ones coming back, all of them and as I said, you have 1, his name is Stephen Hill.  Kerley is a solid enough slot receiver but he's no Wes Welker.

Idk how you think you won't have Sanchez as your starter next year.  It's either him, whichever rookie you grab (iIn this case Glennon in the third who could very well start for you) or whichever FA you can bring in.  You can't go with McElroy, he's no upgrade from Sanchez and you can't cut Sanchez, it'll cost you 17 million dollars to the cap.  You can't trade him away, no one is that desperate and if a team is, then fucking hell, go for it, take whatever you can get and run and then this mock changes some.  Either way, as of now, you're stuck with Sanchez and you need to hit either a new weapon for him, a run game or better protection.  You don't need to go pass rush in the first this year to get a stud.  You get Lemonier in the second in this scenario and he could have easily gone in the first this year if there weren't so many talented pass rush prospects or the first last year easily.

I'm telling you, get a top piece of offensive talent (the receiver you guys like the most, offensive line or Bernard so you can have a real running back) and address the defense later.  And hell, Geno may fall to you guys, it could easily happen, can always grab him or Barkley and have another bust ass QB.  B)


The only way I see Jets going offense in the first round is if either Luke Joeckel falls (which isn't going to happen), or if we stupidly draft Geno Smith or Barkley.

Kerley is an average slot guy, Holmes and Hill are both #2. Braylon doesn't have a role yet. We aren't going to risk our first rounder on a WR, unless it's a sure shot #1 guy (Like AJ Green/Julio Jones where). Speculation around Vick has already surfaced, and I'm gonna go out a limb and say there will be some more around Flynn, Cousinss and Alex Smith. The Jets aren't going to turn into a team like the Pats/Packers/Saints etc. They're going to try to mold into the 49ers/Seahawks mold. They're going to need to get someone who can rush the passer (Mingo or Dion), upgrade the RT and maybe LG positions, get a QB that can manage games (Alex Smith, Cousins) and upgrade the RB position.
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Dec 28 2012 05:27pm
Gotta love the idea of Manti joining our D.

I don't think Cleveland drafts another QB this year though.
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Dec 28 2012 05:30pm
Quote (Crashnburn_819 @ Dec 28 2012 04:19pm)
I haven't followed prospects yet, but I like the positional choices. Obviously RB is the biggest hole. Most likely need somebody to replace Jennings. Secondary will have a big hole once Woodson retires, even though Hayward and Macmillian have done a nice job this year. Not sure about OL picks though outside of Center. Saturday may not have another year left. I just don't think they have been bad. More of injury and Rodgers trying to do too much that made them look bad. Other than that, DL depth would be nice, but MM and TT would rather be roster heavy at TE and LB due to their special teams beliefs.


Just a quick break down of the picks I gave you guys...

Round 1 - Giovani Bernard, RB, North Carolina

Best back in this draft. I doubt that'll change through the combine and work outs.

Round 2 - Cobi Hamilton, WR, Arkansas

He's 6'3'', 210, runs a 4.57 40 (don't quote me 100% on that 40 time, I'm like 99% sure it's right though) and is very athletic. Good combo of size and speed and runs solid routes. I know he had a monster 300+/3 TD day this season and is fairly underrated imo.

Round 3 - Alvin Bailey, OT/G, Arkansas

This was a kind of I'm not sure what to give the Packers pick. Versatile and good was what I was looking for and Bailey is that. You can plug him in at either guard spot or RT and he should be just fine. He's big and a great run blocker with a very high ceiling. I was thinking, new RB, may as well bolster the run blocking too a little bit.

Round 4 - Phillip Thomas, S, Fresno State

Mainly depth. He can develope into a starter and as you said, once Woodson is gone, secondary will take a massive hit. Thomas can develop into a starter but he'll need a year or so.

Quote (RADickey @ Dec 28 2012 04:24pm)
The only way I see Jets going offense in the first round is if either Luke Joeckel falls (which isn't going to happen), or if we stupidly draft Geno Smith or Barkley.

Kerley is an average slot guy, Holmes and Hill are both #2. Braylon doesn't have a role yet. We aren't going to risk our first rounder on a WR, unless it's a sure shot #1 guy (Like AJ Green/Julio Jones where). Speculation around Vick has already surfaced, and I'm gonna go out a limb and say there will be some more around Flynn, Cousinss and Alex Smith. The Jets aren't going to turn into a team like the Pats/Packers/Saints etc. They're going to try to mold into the 49ers/Seahawks mold. They're going to need to get someone who can rush the passer (Mingo or Dion), upgrade the RT and maybe LG positions, get a QB that can manage games (Alex Smith, Cousins) and upgrade the RB position.


Every team that has QB troubles will have speculation and rumors of Vick, Smith, etc lol, that's nothing new. I hear all of the "sure things" that the Cardinals are going ham for Vick and Alex Smith and blah blah and McNabb and herp a derp and etc etc etc lol. I get all of those same things too, you can't pay any attention to them because they're just rumors. The facts are, Sanchez is a Jet, their best option right now, so as of right now, they need to help him. That's it, that's all this mock is, what it'd be like, right now.

Quote (Kellie @ Dec 28 2012 04:27pm)
Gotta love the idea of Manti joining our D.

I don't think Cleveland drafts another QB this year though.


Only reason I have them grabbing a QB is because you may not have McCoy so you'll need that backup and/or if there are anymore changes in the front office/coaching, guys may want their own guy in over Weeden.
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Dec 28 2012 05:35pm
Quote (Randolph @ Dec 28 2012 07:30pm)

Every team that has QB troubles will have speculation and rumors of Vick, Smith, etc lol, that's nothing new.  I hear all of the "sure things" that the Cardinals are going ham for Vick and Alex Smith and blah blah and McNabb and herp a derp and etc etc etc lol.  I get all of those same things too, you can't pay any attention to them because they're just rumors.  The facts are, Sanchez is a Jet, their best option right now, so as of right now, they need to help him.  That's it, that's all this mock is, what it'd be like, right now.


Just to throw in more: Jets have needed to upgrade offense for three years - and they've drafted a defensive player first all three years. It's just their MO with Rex as coach.
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