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Nov 11 2014 05:22pm
Quote (Paran0id @ Nov 11 2014 07:11pm)
People keep saying bargnani has "talent" but has not put in the effort to become a good player.
Where is this talent I ask? All I see when he plays is a piss poor basketball player. Talent means being good at something. He's not good.

The best raptors player of all time was Chris Bosh.
But the greatest Raptor was Vince Carter, because at the height of his popularity he transcended sports and became a part of popular culture.
I remember VC being mentioned in an episode of Frasier for christ's sake. Vincanity was truly a phenomenon.
VC in his first couple years in the nba was the most culturally relevant nba player since michael jordan. Only Kobe and Lebron have reached that level.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRFZyFDSlfU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-zOpCeE6zo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhdGQn3k7Aw


He was one of the most agile and offensively talented big men of the last decade. Period. Very few guys over 7 feet can move like that. Much less move like that, with his court vision, his shooting touch and his passing ability.

He's just lazy as fuck, doesn't care to try every night, takes plays off all the time, and has a difficult time with motivation.

I'm starting to think that's why he's so hated is because he had all the tools to be a star in the league if he tried
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Nov 11 2014 05:33pm
Quote (bitg_pj @ 11 Nov 2014 19:02)
My top raptors of all time in order

1. Vince Carter
2. Chris Bosh
3. Demar Derozan
4. Damon Stoudamire
5. Jose Calderon
6. Antonio Davis
7. Mo Pete
8. Andrea Bargnani
8. Alvin Williams
9. Tmac
10. Glen Grunwald ( I know he's not a player, but without him...none of the raptors success happens )


Pretty solid list, but (respectfully) I'd shift Jose below Tmac, Bargnani after top 10 but within top 15, slip Oak in somewhere, or maybe even JYD for his polarizing efforts, and I'd have to bring Lowry in somehow. Antonio Davis played a major part in their history; he's arguably a top 5 guy for them, all-time. They're all within the radar. I like that you bumped Mighty Mouse. They give him too much credit. He was awesome and he was really important for sparking their future, but he wasn't everything. And putting TMac at #9 is smart. His best years were still yet to come.

Quote (Paran0id @ 11 Nov 2014 19:11)
People keep saying bargnani has "talent" but has not put in the effort to become a good player.
Where is this talent I ask? All I see when he plays is a piss poor basketball player. Talent means being good at something. He's not good.


He was big, mobile, a good shooter, and had pretty decent offensive awareness. But lazy and soft as fuark.

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Quote (bitg_pj @ 11 Nov 2014 19:22)
I'm starting to think that's why he's so hated is because he had all the tools to be a star in the league if he tried


Of course. He's a little byotch who wouldn't survive an hour at any good park. He would've done pretty well in Euro League, but in the NBA you should at least have a pulse. So, so, so lazy.

This post was edited by RewtheBrave on Nov 11 2014 05:36pm
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Nov 11 2014 05:36pm
Quote (bitg_pj @ Nov 11 2014 07:02pm)
My top raptors of all time in order

1. Vince Carter
2. Chris Bosh
3. Demar Derozan
4. Damon Stoudamire
5. Jose Calderon
6. Antonio Davis
7. Mo Pete
8. Andrea Bargnani
8. Alvin Williams
9. Tmac
10. Glen Grunwald ( I know he's not a player, but without him...none of the raptors success happens )


What a pathetic franchise to have Bargnani as a top 10 player looool
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Nov 11 2014 05:41pm
Quote (InNOutGiftcards @ Nov 11 2014 06:36pm)
What a pathetic franchise to have Bargnani as a top 10 player looool


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Nov 11 2014 05:42pm
Quote (Moofy @ 11 Nov 2014 15:41)
irony


DUDE BE CAREFUL
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Quote (Call Me Traitor @ Nov 11 2014 07:42pm)
DUDE BE CAREFUL


Seriously
moof is a badass mf
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Nov 11 2014 05:43pm
Quote (InNOutGiftcards @ Nov 11 2014 07:36pm)
What a pathetic franchise to have Bargnani as a top 10 player looool


FRANCHISE ALL TIME BEST PLAYERS (REGULAR SEASON)
PLAYER GP MP FG(%) 3P(%) FT(%) RB AS ST TO BK PTS
Chris Paul 425 37.1 47.1 35.9 85.3 4.6 9.9 2.4 2.5 0.1 18.7
David West 530 32.4 49.0 26.4 83.9 7.3 2.0 0.7 1.8 0.8 16.4
P.J. Brown 315 33.5 47.7 0.0 84.7 8.5 1.8 0.8 1.2 0.8 10.3
Tyson Chandler 197 34.3 61.1 0.0 56.9 11.3 0.9 0.5 1.7 1.4 10.2
Anthony Davis 137 32.3 51.8 11.8 78.0 9.3 1.3 1.3 1.5 2.4 17.6
Jamaal Magloire 187 31.7 47.0 0.0 71.9 9.5 1.1 0.5 2.2 1.3 11.9
Emeka Okafor 181 30.0 54.7 0.0 55.6 9.1 0.7 0.6 1.5 1.5 10.3
Peja Stojakovic 219 33.2 41.8 40.4 89.9 4.0 1.3 0.8 0.9 0.1 14.3
Baron Davis 135 38.3 39.8 32.9 69.8 4.0 7.0 2.1 2.9 0.4 20.2
Al-Farouq Aminu 222 25.2 45.7 26.3 71.6 6.3 1.3 1.0 1.3 0.6 6.9



tell me about how shitty Andrea Bargnani is mr Al Farouq aminu
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Nov 11 2014 05:46pm
Quote (bitg_pj @ 11 Nov 2014 15:43)
FRANCHISE ALL TIME BEST PLAYERS (REGULAR SEASON)
PLAYER GP MP FG(%) 3P(%) FT(%) RB AS ST TO BK PTS
Chris Paul 425 37.1 47.1 35.9 85.3 4.6 9.9 2.4 2.5 0.1 18.7
David West 530 32.4 49.0 26.4 83.9 7.3 2.0 0.7 1.8 0.8 16.4
P.J. Brown 315 33.5 47.7 0.0 84.7 8.5 1.8 0.8 1.2 0.8 10.3
Tyson Chandler 197 34.3 61.1 0.0 56.9 11.3 0.9 0.5 1.7 1.4 10.2
Anthony Davis 137 32.3 51.8 11.8 78.0 9.3 1.3 1.3 1.5 2.4 17.6
Jamaal Magloire 187 31.7 47.0 0.0 71.9 9.5 1.1 0.5 2.2 1.3 11.9
Emeka Okafor 181 30.0 54.7 0.0 55.6 9.1 0.7 0.6 1.5 1.5 10.3
Peja Stojakovic 219 33.2 41.8 40.4 89.9 4.0 1.3 0.8 0.9 0.1 14.3
Baron Davis 135 38.3 39.8 32.9 69.8 4.0 7.0 2.1 2.9 0.4 20.2
Al-Farouq Aminu 222 25.2 45.7 26.3 71.6 6.3 1.3 1.0 1.3 0.6 6.9



tell me about how shitty Andrea Bargnani is mr Al Farouq aminu


Are you seriously trying to compare all time rapturds vs all time Hornets? Or are you just using Pelicans? both of which are better than the Raptors.

I mean for shits sake, you had to list a non-player as an all time great. LOL
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Nov 11 2014 05:49pm
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Quote (bitg_pj @ Nov 11 2014 07:43pm)
FRANCHISE ALL TIME BEST PLAYERS (REGULAR SEASON)
PLAYER GP MP FG(%) 3P(%) FT(%) RB AS ST TO BK PTS
Chris Paul 425 37.1 47.1 35.9 85.3 4.6 9.9 2.4 2.5 0.1 18.7
David West 530 32.4 49.0 26.4 83.9 7.3 2.0 0.7 1.8 0.8 16.4
P.J. Brown 315 33.5 47.7 0.0 84.7 8.5 1.8 0.8 1.2 0.8 10.3
Tyson Chandler 197 34.3 61.1 0.0 56.9 11.3 0.9 0.5 1.7 1.4 10.2
Anthony Davis 137 32.3 51.8 11.8 78.0 9.3 1.3 1.3 1.5 2.4 17.6
Jamaal Magloire 187 31.7 47.0 0.0 71.9 9.5 1.1 0.5 2.2 1.3 11.9
Emeka Okafor 181 30.0 54.7 0.0 55.6 9.1 0.7 0.6 1.5 1.5 10.3
Peja Stojakovic 219 33.2 41.8 40.4 89.9 4.0 1.3 0.8 0.9 0.1 14.3
Baron Davis 135 38.3 39.8 32.9 69.8 4.0 7.0 2.1 2.9 0.4 20.2
Al-Farouq Aminu 222 25.2 45.7 26.3 71.6 6.3 1.3 1.0 1.3 0.6 6.9



tell me about how shitty Andrea Bargnani is mr Al Farouq aminu


Current New Orleans Pelicans franchise used to be the old Charlotte Horners franchise

Larry Johnson
Baron Davis
Alonzo Mourning
Glen Rice
Dell Curry


Stay the fuck down you autistic fuck.
The current franchise in Charlotte is new, and they bought the rights to their franchise back when they bought back the Hornets name but the franchise is still a part of NO.


Just find ways to kill yourself please
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Nov 11 2014 05:52pm
Quote (InNOutGiftcards @ Nov 11 2014 07:49pm)
Current New Orleans Pelicans franchise used to be the old Charlotte Horners franchise

Larry Johnson
Baron Davis
Alonzo Mourning
Glen Rice
Dell Curry


Stay the fuck down you autistic fuck.
The current franchise in Charlotte is new, and they bought the rights to their franchise back when they bought back the Hornets name but the franchise is still a part of NO.


Just find ways to kill yourself please


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