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May 24 2013 08:09pm
Yeah, so starting last night about 24 hours ago my computer will crash to the Blue Screen of Death and give me a stop error that starts with-

STOP: 0x000000F4

And then there are some more hexadecimal strings, but those change from crash to crash I believe. It seems to happen about every hour, and I can't recreate it intentionally to see if it's something specific causing it to crash. I will say that I think it has to do when I'm in my web browser loading heavy pages, such as Twitch streams or a page heavy with Flash. The first time it happened I was in League of Legends and alt+tabbed out to a twitch tv stream to close it and got hung up there. I couldn't CTRL ALT Delete or anything, I just had to shut it down with the power button.

I went into my BIOS and it's a click BIOS. I did a Memory Test which it has, and the first time it failed. And then I set the BIOS settings to default and saved it and ran the Memory Test again and it passed. I have never messed with the BIOS though, so I don't know if setting it to default even changed anything.

I don't overclock my CPU or my GPU so that has nothing to do with it. I have heard a lot of theories about what this Blue Screen error is, but I want to figure out exactly what it is.

Here's what some forums say-

1) SATA Cables Loose, or faulty
2) Hard Drive Faulty
3) Memory Faulty
4) Mother Board Faulty
5) Mother Board Battery dying

I'm sure there are more possibilities, but that's what I've seen the most. The real problem is that I want to know what is specifically causing it and I can't figure out how to do that. I don't want to go around replacing all my parts trying to figure out what's wrong because I don't have the money to do that. At the very least I will probably take the computer apart, and clean it and reconnect all the cables and the RAM and Graphics Card. I just want to figure out some way to pinpoint the problem so I can fix it.
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May 25 2013 12:21pm
Quote (Munky @ May 24 2013 10:09pm)
Yeah, so starting last night about 24 hours ago my computer will crash to the Blue Screen of Death and give me a stop error that starts with-

STOP: 0x000000F4

And then there are some more hexadecimal strings, but those change from crash to crash I believe.  It seems to happen about every hour, and I can't recreate it intentionally to see if it's something specific causing it to crash. I will say that I think it has to do when I'm in my web browser loading heavy pages, such as Twitch streams or a page heavy with Flash. The first time it happened I was in League of Legends and alt+tabbed out to a twitch tv stream to close it and got hung up there. I couldn't CTRL ALT Delete or anything, I just had to shut it down with the power button.

I went into my BIOS and it's a click BIOS. I did a Memory Test which it has, and the first time it failed. And then I set the BIOS settings to default and saved it and ran the Memory Test again and it passed. I have never messed with the BIOS though, so I don't know if setting it to default even changed anything.

I don't overclock my CPU or my GPU so that has nothing to do with it. I have heard a lot of theories about what this Blue Screen error is, but I want to figure out exactly what it is.

Here's what some forums say-

1) SATA Cables Loose, or faulty
2) Hard Drive Faulty
3) Memory Faulty
4) Mother Board Faulty
5) Mother Board Battery dying

I'm sure there are more possibilities, but that's what I've seen the most. The real problem is that I want to know what is specifically causing it and I can't figure out how to do that. I don't want to go around replacing all my parts trying to figure out what's wrong because I don't have the money to do that. At the very least I will probably take the computer apart, and clean it and reconnect all the cables and the RAM and Graphics Card. I just want to figure out some way to pinpoint the problem so I can fix it.


Well windows memory test is not suffciqnt for testing ram.
You need to get memtest and test all sticks at once for at least 7+ passes.

If you could locate and open your mini dump files and post back here the info I could actually be of help.

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May 25 2013 01:19pm
I think I fixed it. Apparently there's a bug with my Hard Drive with the firmware it had. Where after 5200 hours of use it would do this hang up every hour.


The first buyers of the Crucial m4 SSDs may face an annoying bug.
With the original firmware of the controller, the Crucial m4 crashes after about 5200 hours of use, resulting in a crash if the operating system. 5200 h represents seven months of continuous use.
The M4 was first released in June 2011 and it is likely that many non-professional users will face this problem shortly ....
The SSD is still operational (after reboot), but will stop every hour after the first appearance of the bug. The most common symptom is a BSOD with the code 0x00000F4.
In principle, no data is lost (except for those who have not been saved before a crash).


All M4 models with firmware version prior to 309 are being targeted:

- 64 GB m4 (CT064M4SSD2)
- M4 128GB (CT128M4SSD2)
- M4 256GB (CT256M4SSD2)
- 512 GB m4 (CT512M4SSD2)
- Super Slim 64GB m4 (CT064M4SSD1)
- Super Slim 128 GB m4 (CT128M4SSD1)
- Super Slim 256 GB m4 (CT256M4SSD1)
- Super Slim 512 GB m4 (CT512M4SSD1)

The first one is my SSD, so I updated the firmware and I'm going to wait and see if the problem is gone.
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May 26 2013 10:09am
Quote (Munky @ May 25 2013 02:19pm)
I think I fixed it. Apparently there's a bug with my Hard Drive with the firmware it had. Where after 5200 hours of use it would do this hang up every hour.


The first buyers of the Crucial m4 SSDs may face an annoying bug.
With the original firmware of the controller, the Crucial m4 crashes after about 5200 hours of use, resulting in a crash if the operating system. 5200 h represents seven months of continuous use.
The M4 was first released in June 2011 and it is likely that many non-professional users will face this problem shortly ....
The SSD is still operational (after reboot), but will stop every hour after the first appearance of the bug. The most common symptom is a BSOD with the code 0x00000F4.
In principle, no data is lost (except for those who have not been saved before a crash).


All M4 models with firmware version prior to 309 are being targeted:

- 64 GB m4 (CT064M4SSD2)
- M4 128GB (CT128M4SSD2)
- M4 256GB (CT256M4SSD2)
- 512 GB m4 (CT512M4SSD2)
- Super Slim 64GB m4 (CT064M4SSD1)
- Super Slim 128 GB m4 (CT128M4SSD1)
- Super Slim 256 GB m4 (CT256M4SSD1)
- Super Slim 512 GB m4 (CT512M4SSD1)

The first one is my SSD, so I updated the firmware and I'm going to wait and see if the problem is gone.


Nice find.
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