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Feb 15 2013 08:28pm
Quote (Suriname @ Feb 15 2013 10:55am)
Yeah I see orochimaru is somewhat showing his respect towards Sasuke or grateful he got revived again this time being permanent and able to get a full body with the 1st's cell in it.

Madara just pwned with breaking from Edo Tensei just like the 1st did.  I wonder if it's because Madara possessing the 1st's cells/dna which I believe he mentioned before.

I forgot what happened to Itachi now, did he die off during the fight with Sasuke and Kabuto?


he made kabuto undo all of the edo tensei summons... since he's one of them, he got unsummoned as well
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Feb 16 2013 06:58am
Quote (Cyba @ 16 Feb 2013 03:28)
he made kabuto undo all of the edo tensei summons... since he's one of them, he got unsummoned as well


still dont understand why he didnt unsummon all the bad guys only. Use the good guys to win the war then unsummon

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still dont understand why he didnt unsummon all the bad guys only. Use the good guys to win the war then unsummon


The same reason when Itachi got hit with shisui's eye's genjutsu he didn't only get unsummoned.. because you need to unsummon them all to unsummon one. (assumption)
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Feb 16 2013 08:15am
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still dont understand why he didnt unsummon all the bad guys only. Use the good guys to win the war then unsummon


He used izanami on kabuto because he wanted teach teach him a lesson ...eventually, kabuto will break free and itachi was counting on it.

Also, i was thinking the same thing as zipper, it's all or nothing which would explain why he couldn't unsummon just Itachi..
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Feb 16 2013 08:34am
Quote (Cyba @ 16 Feb 2013 15:15)
He used izanami on kabuto because he wanted teach teach him a lesson ...eventually, kabuto will break free and itachi was counting on it.

Also, i was thinking the same thing as zipper, it's all or nothing which would explain why he couldn't unsummon just Itachi..


he couldnt unsummon him because itachi "unplugged" himself out of kabutos control. And thats really bullshit idea if u have to unsummon all
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Feb 16 2013 08:52am
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he couldnt unsummon him because itachi "unplugged" himself out of kabutos control. And thats really bullshit idea if u have to unsummon all


edo tensei has weaknesses....if someone falls out of kabuto's control, then he can't really do much about it (like in the case of madara who manually broke the control)... in the case of itachi, itachi was under a genjutsu so he was still bound to kabuto's seals/summoning/unsummoning... it makes sense that the summons are all connected though because it explains why kabuto couldn't unsummon him since it would affect the war plans

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he couldnt unsummon him because itachi "unplugged" himself out of kabutos control. And thats really bullshit idea if u have to unsummon all


Wrong.. Itachi never broke control.. he cast a genjutsu on himself to protect the leaf, which was being attacked by the edo tenseis (along with the other nations, but yeah..)
Not really a bullshit idea.. was just the jutsu's effect.. the only person who "broke out of kabutos control" did so as the jutsu disolved.. that was kind of a "bullshit idea" although we knew from scene one madara was not going to go away so easily after just being summoned and all the hype of his strength.. at least it wasnt something retarded like "sharingan break edo tensei jutsu"

He didn't want to "teach kabuto a lesson" so to speak.. or at least thats not how I recalled it.. He was so sure Kabuto would not accept the truth that he knew his jutsu would work perfectly since his eyesight was sealed (can't use tsukinomi to find out how to undo edo tensei) and he obviously wasn't going to kill kabuto and make all the edo tenseis unkillable until sealed.. kabuto had to be kept alive and he had to undo the jutsu.. so izanami put kabuto into a "submissive" state while trapped in the illusion that itachi could gather all the information needed and control him as needed.
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Feb 17 2013 08:33am
Quote (ZipperInYourMouth @ Feb 16 2013 10:48pm)
Wrong.. Itachi never broke control.. he cast a genjutsu on himself to protect the leaf, which was being attacked by the edo tenseis (along with the other nations, but yeah..)
Not really a bullshit idea.. was just the jutsu's effect.. the only person who "broke out of kabutos control" did so as the jutsu disolved.. that was kind of a "bullshit idea" although we knew from scene one madara was not going to go away so easily after just being summoned and all the hype of his strength.. at least it wasnt something retarded like "sharingan break edo tensei jutsu"

He didn't want to "teach kabuto a lesson" so to speak.. or at least thats not how I recalled it..  He was so sure Kabuto would not accept the truth that he knew his jutsu would work perfectly since his eyesight was sealed (can't use tsukinomi to find out how to undo edo tensei) and he obviously wasn't going to kill kabuto and make all the edo tenseis unkillable until sealed.. kabuto had to be kept alive and he had to undo the jutsu.. so izanami put kabuto into a "submissive" state while trapped in the illusion that itachi could gather all the information needed and control him as needed.


1. why do you wait 10+ hours later just to reiterate what i said.
2. yes he did want to teach kabuto a lesson... you should read the manga before you start disagreements especially if you're unsure of what actually happened...you're one of those people who are passive readers rather than active ones.





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Feb 17 2013 08:52am
itachi is the strongest ninja
even the first respected him

but i really like 2nd and the way he is

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Feb 17 2013 09:07am
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itachi is the strongest ninja
even the first respected him

but i really like 2nd and the way he is


yes the first didnt even know the fourth, merely knew the third and he knows itachi? wtf
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