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Aug 12 2012 06:16pm
Quote (Mastrshok @ Aug 12 2012 08:12pm)
Depending on the ram you can overclock it for higher speeds. Never want to go above 1.65V. Although anything over 1600 mhz is just extra e-peen (Right now anyway). Dominator Plantinums are still fairly new so I'm not sure if you can really overclock them and just tighten the timings due to so many speed options etc.

Forgot to copy and paste the reply and edit my previous post so I don't post back to back.  -_-  Also it probably is better to get 2 sticks perhaps, less stress on your motherboard.


Yeah 2 sticks that's what I've heard. And I'm trying to go highest speed/timing possible so the comp can tank at least BF4, Crysis 3 and Final Fantasy 15, really not looking to "save" money right now.
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Aug 12 2012 06:19pm
Quote (Pakamon @ Aug 12 2012 07:16pm)
Yeah 2 sticks that's what I've heard. And I'm trying to go highest speed/timing possible so the comp can tank at least BF4, Crysis 3 and Final Fantasy 15, really not looking to "save" money right now.


If you are going that route the Dominator Platinum is some e-peen ram that will cost you if you're doing 2 x 8 GB. :P

I'm guessing when DDR4 comes out you're going to upgrade ASAP haha.
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Aug 12 2012 06:27pm
Im gonna get the mushkin redline 16gb for my next buy
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Aug 12 2012 10:35pm
Quote (Pakamon @ Aug 12 2012 04:47pm)


The easiest way to see the actual "performance"" without much hassle is a quick equation:

ddr is dual data rate (ddr1, ddr2, ddr3 all of them are)

so 1600 would be 800mhz for example.. (it is 800x2)

we'll take: latency / (mhz/2) = speed

lets say it has 10CL for easy math sake

10/800 = 0.0125

now lets see a piece of 1333mhz ram with 7CL

7 / (1333/2) =
7 / 666.5 =
0.0105
as you can see, the 1333mhz with 7CL is faster (lower is better)

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Aug 13 2012 01:05am
Get them dominators mm
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Aug 13 2012 08:42am
Quote (GRATS @ Aug 13 2012 12:35am)
The easiest way to see the actual "performance"" without much hassle is a quick equation:

ddr is dual data rate (ddr1, ddr2, ddr3 all of them are)

so 1600 would be 800mhz for example.. (it is 800x2)

we'll take:  latency / (mhz/2) = speed

lets say it has 10CL for easy math sake

10/800 = 0.0125

now lets see a piece of 1333mhz ram with 7CL

7 / (1333/2) =
7 / 666.5 =
0.0105
as you can see, the 1333mhz with 7CL is faster (lower is better)


Oh nice a formula :D
Thanks
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Aug 13 2012 08:17pm
Quote (GRATS @ Aug 13 2012 12:35am)
The easiest way to see the actual "performance"" without much hassle is a quick equation:

ddr is dual data rate (ddr1, ddr2, ddr3 all of them are)

so 1600 would be 800mhz for example.. (it is 800x2)

we'll take:  latency / (mhz/2) = speed

lets say it has 10CL for easy math sake

10/800 = 0.0125

now lets see a piece of 1333mhz ram with 7CL

7 / (1333/2) =
7 / 666.5 =
0.0105
as you can see, the 1333mhz with 7CL is faster (lower is better)

According to this formula:

1333 DDR3 CL7 < 1600 DDR3 CL8

If this is true, I'm definitely returning the former tomorrow. :o

EDIT: Meh, screw it. It's not that much faster. :(

This post was edited by VVR4ITH on Aug 13 2012 08:19pm
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Aug 13 2012 09:45pm
I have 2133 ram (corsair) and cannot notice any diference what-so-ever when I click it down to 1333...

So I wouldn't worry too much, I only got the 2133 because everything else was out of stock. Unless the price diference is trivial I wouldn't bother getting anything o er 1600.

I might be misunderstanding the place of RAM in the process chain, RAM on the market today is almost never going to be bottlenecking your performance (unless of course you have not enough memory to run all the tasks you have going) so getting more and better ram is for the most part pointless.

8gig should be more than enough for normal gaming and I can't imagine anything higher than 1333 ever being slow enough that it bottlenecks your performance.
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Aug 13 2012 09:47pm
Quote (GRATS @ Aug 13 2012 04:35am)
The easiest way to see the actual "performance"" without much hassle is a quick equation:

ddr is dual data rate (ddr1, ddr2, ddr3 all of them are)

so 1600 would be 800mhz for example.. (it is 800x2)

we'll take: latency / (mhz/2) = speed

lets say it has 10CL for easy math sake

10/800 = 0.0125

now lets see a piece of 1333mhz ram with 7CL

7 / (1333/2) =
7 / 666.5 =
0.0105
as you can see, the 1333mhz with 7CL is faster (lower is better)


Well someone clearly knows their shit... lol

Maybe you can answer this question that I've been assuming the answer to for a long time:

Is RAM (assuming you have say DDR3 1333 MHZ or more) EVER going to bottleneck your gaming performance? If not, what tasks will faster RAM improve the performance of?
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Aug 13 2012 10:01pm
Quote (IIFOXII @ Aug 13 2012 11:47pm)
Well someone clearly knows their shit... lol

Maybe you can answer this question that I've been assuming the answer to for a long time:

Is RAM (assuming you have say DDR3 1333 MHZ or more) EVER going to bottleneck your gaming performance?  If not, what tasks will faster RAM improve the performance of?


it's called google for 30 mins and you know it
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