Light is very weak without gear on p8 he's probably not even hitting 25k

This post was edited by chips456 on Nov 9 2018 10:04am

I re-run on P1. She does hit 25k, 117fcr etc. But without griffon/better gear, she's quite slow. People really do over-estimate light sorcs, simply because they are used to botted gear (griff -20, 5/-5 facet gear, 7-8x light sk, etc.)/It's what people keep quoting without having actually tested/crunched them.

While yes, fully optimized blizzard sorc vs fully optimized light sorc (I've run tests with editor), light sorc is marginally faster. On average, it's almost no difference, when you factor in the average amount of Unbreakable light immunes (happens more than ppl realize). On P1, cleaning just seals and diablo, blizzard is arguably faster. Full clears, lightning gets better (mostly due to the amount of immune knights, and the fact that they run fast as hell...).

Fully optimized blizz sorc means 240% eth reaper 40/15ias, guillame's cham, 160ed/60ias 100life armor for 75ias bp, cbf and great crushing blow. CB get exponentially better with higher settigs vs Seis and D.

P8, light sorc just "rush to dia", still noticeably better, but it's not a huge deal, especially if you factor in unbreakable immunes. Optimized, P8 rush to seals/dia (like you would do in baalruns where u are running chaos), factoring in unbreakable immunes that take time: the difference between a light sorc and a blizz sorc is something like 2 to 3 seconds. That's on a ~1min run.

So is it faster? yes, in most scenarios. Is it better? that depends. In a baalrun setting, imo, if you got a javazon as a D killer, throne room killer, the COLD damage will help more in throne/baal than another source of lightning dmg Plus, you can freeze wave 3 before Hydras - something a light sorc can't. On top of that the blizz sorc is: More sturdy (which both will be in optimized gear settings though) and has room for high MF, without losing speed.

People are really linear about lightning sorcs vs blizz sorcs and doesnt really make up their own minds, just go by old truths.

This post was edited by SpAz. on Nov 14 2018 05:57am

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This post was edited by -joey- on Nov 14 2018 05:59am

Less writing, more screens

So you used a tals light, then compare the kill speed to an enigma optimized blizz...
Then you beat your own argument with a single sentence... "...So is it faster? yes, in most scenarios..."
Kill speed > everything
Is it worlds apart no, but if we're talking about which is the best, you cannot say blizz >, you just prefer blizz. Neat do your favorite thing, just don't try and call it the best.

many people got the riperino living by that motto here in the pvm section on /pl8 hc walks.

Can't you read? or you simply didn't bother?
There, I bolded out the important part.
Please read again and let me know if something was unclear.
If you prefer not to read what other people say, and just spam obliviously: go ahead, but don't do it in my thread please.


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Good thing the range of gameplay extends beyond that one niche style of game play.

Yes to make your argument your focusing on the smallest percentage of kills. Light is better. You're still just arguing for preference. If your argument is that you prefer blizz playstyle great stick to it. Don't argue opinions versus years of testing and knowledge.
Attacking whether I can read or not is pretty childish. Strawman illogical stuff, but to each his own.

Still didn't read, I see.
I could repeat myself, but all the info is in the first post, which you won't read.
Nowhere did I say anything final on what's better. I merely pointed out that 1) people overrate light sorcs, and; 2) that there are situations where blizzard is either a) faster and better, or b.) as fast/marginally slower but still better, and 3) that this is based on my own testing.

There's plus to either build. You are right though; blizzard is my preference. I admit that there's situations where a light sorc is simply faster. It's however most of the times marginal, and there's other things than simply "speed" in a limited varied settings to consider: in general (battle.net, twinked), as well as on single player (this thread). In this case (this thread, walkthroughs, pvm section): I prefer blizz sorc cause of versatility ASWELL as play style, and I do consider blizzard to be as good or better for my need & purposes.

Continue to post here without reading my post will render a report, please don't do it. Engage in an intellectual discussion or don't engage.

This post was edited by SpAz. on Nov 14 2018 08:16am