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Attempt # 4

Char class : Barbarian

Level : 54

Players in game : 1


After some hesitations, I decided to use a specific set-up for each Uber-Portal.
For all : Malice (PB) - Gerke (shael) - Guillaume's (15ias) - Raven - Gores - Life tap on switch
Uber-Izual : Hellmouth - Snowclash - Treachery - Saracen - res ring
Uber-Duriel : Venomgrip - Strings - Treachery - Angelic amu - Angelic ring
Uber-Lilith : Venomgrip - Strings - Venom Ward (15ias) - Angelic amu - Angelic ring



Lilith :
95% pr, but only 10fpa, and no Fade.
Tip : a barb can have 2 wands on switch.
One for Life tap, the second to find your way to Lilith faster (Weaken, Terror, Confuse, Attract or Dim Vision help a lot).
Or you can also use an Enchant charged weapon for a nice AR boost, usefull to get your first succesfull hits.
After 24 hits, you'll reach your max CtH (66%, before Lilith's block).
With only angelics (~1500 AR), you hit at 26% the first time.
With enchant level 1 (1-h melee weapon), 29%.
With enchant level 10 (Todesfaelle), 37%.






Uber-Duriel :
This time I managed to keep Duriel near the Portal.
It was much faster. But still a hard fight !






Uber-Izual :
Nothing new here, you'll be healed by Hellmouth and Snowclash.
Oblivion knight's Bone spirit hurt a lot, use Life tap to tank them (or lure them).
Tip : you can use a Tele charge amulet to reach Izual faster !






Uber-Tristram ??? :
Coming soon !!!



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May 27 2011 11:12am
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Uber-Tristram


Only 1 setup allowed for UT.

Malice - Gores are all you need to beat Uber PrimeEvils.

Anything else will help you to survive :
Raven - Blackthorn (ort) - Hellmouth - Snowclash (negate or healing from elemental)
Gerke (shael) - Treachery will give you block / res + %dr
45ias on Treachery, CbF on Raven are only nice adds here
res amulet (Saracen is just fine, or a cheap chromatic amulet),
res ring (or Dwarf if enough res), res charms
Fhr charms (I went for 48%), Life charms on free slots.

Life Tap/Terror... on switch is absolutely not mandatory, but can help.



Will you dare in? :





Uber-Diablo :
After a bitter kiss from Mephisto, I managed to engage Diablo 1vs1...
Hmmm, to be honest, I couldnt survive without his sweet Pit lords.
You need more than 800 life to survive his attacks, and get healed in few seconds.






Uber-Baal :
Again, Pit Lords will keep you alive. I was surprised to see Wraiths dying from my ctc (Meteor, Blizzard).
Vampire's fireballs dont heal (or hurt) but their firewalls do !
I will probably retry with Nokozan amulet (max fire res + usefull adds) to see what happens. Diablo + Baal deaths lead me to level 56 !!





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End of the challenge ?


I spent more times on Uber-Mephisto.
I could have used the very same Pit Lords to heal.
I decided to take advantage only of skeletons.



The final fight : Uber-Mephisto :
Max res under his conviction, dont forget Anya bug !
I first killed as many undesired skels as I could : Poison mages / Archers / Warriors.
Fire/Light mages died from blizzard alone. After a time, I got a nice Cold mages crew.
It was time for the final meeting.






What will be the next challenge ? :




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May 27 2011 04:51pm
dual dream bear sorc would own ubers but mephy. Revives + meteors = uber mephy ownage
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dual dream bear sorc would own ubers but mephy. Revives + meteors = uber mephy ownage


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May 27 2011 05:18pm
Amazing job. Good work! :cheers:
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May 27 2011 06:14pm
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Amazing job. Good work! :cheers:


+1


I dont think I've ever seen anyone beat ubers that low on any class and especially given the restrictions placed. Well played Feanur , I really enjoyed the process. :hail:


how low can you go?
probably ~42-45 would be about as low as I see it being done without deeding (obsessively)

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on May 27 2011 06:41pm
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Thanks everybody !

I forgot to say (last attempt) that my Moser 2xp.diamonds was equipped in switch with Life tap wand. I used it against U-Meph.

Quote (Master_Zappy @ May 28 2011 01:14am)
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how low can you go?
probably ~42-45 would be about as low as I see it being done without deeding (obsessively)


Treachery is level 49, Hellmouth level 47,
Goblins can be used over Gores (level 47) if you still have a source of Open wounds.

You could replace Treachery by a 4*Um armor (losing 15%dr, 20%fhr and some ias bp), still lvl47, or some jewelled armors :
60ias/60@/100life (or 24fhr) : level47, ultra expensive, or 60@/adds armor (lvl26).

I would probably bet on Shafstop 15@-jewelled.
But without that high res on armor, you'd probably need to switch all charms (fhr, life) for res charms, not even sure you could reach the required 300@res for U-Meph.
The Ward + p.diamond offers up to 69@res, Sanctuary (level49) up to 70@. 4soc shields are level54+ (Monarch), except for paladins of course.

Below level 47 (no Hellmouth), you could try to minimize fire damages (Nokozan + dwarf [lvl 45]) and attract Cold mages to heal with Snowclash (level42).
Hots couldnt be used without getting CB from another source. Or use Guillaume's but then I'm not sure you could survive Mephisto charged bolts.

I can see 3 different main approach with Ubers :
- unhit char (staying out of range) : sorceress using meteor, necro with revived Urdars ...
- AR-dependent melee char : Frenzy barbs, bears, shape druids...
- autohit/unblockable melee char (Smite)

+X meteor/Teleport Orbs, +X revive Wands/Shrunken heads could be tried... but I dont believe you'd have any chance with level 40/50, unskilled, no way to heal. And a necro couldnt control his minions without teleport.

AR-dependent would be more and more difficult with low level : even with 0 def (destroyed defense with Malice or other weapon), Ubers are still level 110 :
Level | cap for CtH :
60 | 71%
55 | 67%
50 | 62.5%
45 | 58%
40 | 53%
Also dont forget 50% Uber-block (55% for Baal, only 40% for Lilith).
And what if your first CtH drop to 5~15% ? (U-Baal has 10K def with his Chilling armor).

Then comes Smite (available from +X Smite scepters). With nice 45@-4soc low strength pala shields.
But it would be hard to rely on Life tap heal : no HS (not spawnable with Smite, only possible on switch but then no Life tap...), hence no Smite damages boost.
Best is level47 ST (22-70 smite), then level41- exceptional pala shields with much less smite damages.

Some weapons that could be tried :
Holy Thunder +X Smite War scepter (+60% lr, +5% max lr)
Lawbringer +X Smite War scepter (Decrep, Sanctuary, but loss of Life tap)
Malice +X Smite War scepter (100% Open wounds)
Strength +X Smite War scepter (25% Crushing blow)
Um'd Shael'd etc +X Smite War scepter (Open wounds, ias), level 47

I wont try with Smite, I dont have any +X Smite scepter (forbidden skill), I cant (and dont want to) invest thousands fg to buy one.

But I'll probably try another barb, with :



I dont play Ladder, so I wont use an up'd one (WSM = -15, level 51 I presume).

Wish me luck !!
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