oh i see so if u upgrade a rare normal item it always jumps 5 lvl reqs when u up it to exeptional

so i need to find rares that s lvl 25 or less can use to up to make a lvl 30 lld wep

and same deal with armor

thanks a million for the info Quorra

just heard back from fenaur:

"Upgrading items adds a level requirement penalty :

+5 if you upgrade from normal to exceptional,
+7 if you upgrade from exceptional to elite,
+12 if you upgrade from normal to elite.[/QUOTE]"

Probably feanur, but yes, that is how it works.

OOPS my bad i suck a spelling