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Nov 18 2009 05:54am

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=37135439&f=169

Saw this and got to wondering:
1) Does duping take the "fun" out of the game for anyone besides myself? If you can buy a perfect-bugged-upped-eth-fort-sacred armor for your merc, it becomes worthless if you know everybody on JSP will have one in a month.

Then I got to actually looking at the stats on this wand. Only necromancers can carry them, and there's a +3 cap on item skills for the owning class, so:
2) What value is stats above +3 to someone who owns the skill?** Inquiring minds want to know?

Finally -
3) Why is there no "Off Topic" thread for conversations like this?

**http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/skills/basics.shtml
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http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=37135439&f=169

Saw this and got to wondering:
1) Does duping take the "fun" out of the game for anyone besides myself? If you can buy a perfect-bugged-upped-eth-fort-sacred armor for your merc, it becomes worthless if you know everybody on JSP will have one in a month.

Then I got to actually looking at the stats on this wand. Only necromancers can carry them, and there's a +3 cap on item skills for the owning class, so:
2) What value is stats above +3 to someone who owns the skill?** Inquiring minds want to know?

Finally -
3) Why is there no "Off Topic" thread for conversations like this?

**http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/skills/basics.shtml


1. It doesn't really become worthless>.> But yes, rather be alone with one.

2. The +3 cap only applies to oskills (bo on cta for example)

3. You can use the Discussion and Guides for things like these.
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Nov 18 2009 06:05am
1) Duping destroys the game for those that use them imo. Those of us that don't simply don't care about them :)
2) The +3 skill cap is ONLY applicable to 0 skills when the item grants a class specific skill to all classes.
3) I'm pretty sure there is an off topic forum, though this is pretty much on topic for D2 though.

Edit to add - That wand is stunningly good by the way. Personally I don't really get on with the Spirit for PvM (I don't PvP), so I would have preferred +X revive, but still +3 Spear, +3 Spirit, +2 decrep? Wow, that's a beauty.

This post was edited by AyeCaramba on Nov 18 2009 06:08am
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Nov 18 2009 02:11pm
1. yes it ruins the game, any game for that matter, not just D2.... but if you're gonna go down the path of "everyone and their mother will be using the same item", then D2 expansion ruined the game as well with the introduction of runewords... because before that, everyone had distiguishable gear since Rare items ruled the game

2. What others said about +3 skill cap, it's only applicable to things that grant it to all classes. This is class specific so it has value beyond +3.

3. This forum has plenty of sub forums so I'm sure you can classify your question under one of them
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Nov 18 2009 03:20pm
Yeah duping blows
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Nov 18 2009 03:35pm
1. no

2. no

3. no
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Nov 18 2009 07:22pm
Thanks to all the responses (and congrats to DrugsBunny for the +1!)

Keenblade makes an excellent point about the expansion - I didn't play D2 before the expansion though, so I missed out on the joy of rares.

I didn't know the bit about the oskill vs. the "procing" on runewords. D2NT accordingly adjusted to bring out "leeter" gear! (Yeah, you can "noob" me if you want.)

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Nov 18 2009 07:34pm
Quote (AyeCaramba @ Nov 18 2009 07:05am)
1) Duping destroys the game for those that use them imo. Those of us that don't simply don't care about them :)
2) The +3 skill cap is ONLY applicable to 0 skills when the item grants a class specific skill to all classes.
3) I'm pretty sure there is an off topic forum, though this is pretty much on topic for D2 though.

Edit to add - That wand is stunningly good by the way. Personally I don't really get on with the Spirit for PvM (I don't PvP), so I would have preferred +X revive, but still +3 Spear, +3 Spirit, +2 decrep? Wow, that's a beauty.


It definitely DOES affect those of us that do not use them. It makes items that are very rare and hard to find very cheap. Those of us that MF will find an extremely rare item and it ends up not even being worth much.
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Nov 19 2009 07:07am
1) I would not take take of dupes until i wanna make perf equipped char. It will not be as unique in dupers times as witohut them. This ultimate-rare-perf-sa-forti will be aviable sooner or later, duped or rolled. But I prefferer rolled. Not mentioning poofabilities.
2) Cap +3 works only on oskill items (like nigma, beast or chaos, unlike holy thunder, white e.g.)
3) Dunno.
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Nov 19 2009 09:38am
pre-expansion D2 was amazing, you really did miss out, because nothing beats finding a perfect rare item... I have yet to see a game that can replicate the random item generation so well as the original D2
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