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May 19 2013 08:38am
Going to run this passive tree

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQBAecEswUtDH0OrRB_EiAUIBR1GNsZLho4GlUb-h0UHcohYCXfJ-0otSjbKaUyCTKJNug26TiWOu1AoEOcR35KfVBHUFBT31RJValVxlcNV-JYY1ivWNtZ81uvXotfP2BLYIhhIWFSZKNlTWaeZ6BuaXC7cql07XTxd-V673zZhNmE74d2jM-PRpBVl7SZK5uDnrmezZ_LogCkGacIpzCnhKvFrKqsurT5txe4k7ndvYG-p8APwBrGnsbYz2XP-NDQ0iHSTdSP2WHdDd_v42rnUuw47w7vTvAf8i_2SPba97760vzF

Not real certain on gems.

Figure something like

Chest - Dual Strike + faster attacks + multi + Life leach + mana
Helm - Reduced mana + grace + ____ + ____
Boots - Cyclone + faster attacks + Life on hit + ____
Gloves - Not sure at all
Weapon 1 - Not sure
Weapon 2 - Not sure

Anyone have some tips on this?

Also unsure of using cleave or cyclone, so any opinions on that?

Be using cleave up to lvl35 so far...

Looking forward to some input :)
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May 19 2013 09:49am
uhhh. what kind of weapons are you using? you should be going elemental damage for cyclone as well as dual strike if you plan on going all attack speed.

So you're not using blood magic on your attacks? Why actually use mana? That's only for CI or EB builds, really. You should also be picking up static blows and area damage in the tree if cyclone is your main attack.

I'm not sure if Life Leech or Life Gain on Hit is better for cyclone since it has such a low damage effectiveness. I would personally use: Cyclone, Life Leech, Blood Magic, Weapon Elemental Damage, Faster Attacks. The last link can be used for whatever at that point. hell, maybe reduced mana since the skill costs so much lol.

On your weapons, you'll obviously want tri-ele damage rolls and attack speed. As for auras, grace, anger, wrath, vitality, determination, purity, and haste (you'd need to swap some auras around depending on the map).
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May 19 2013 10:08am
Im not set on cyclone.

So possibly cleave.

Probably using corsair swords once im the right level.

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May 19 2013 10:14am
Quote (Limelighter @ May 19 2013 09:08am)
Im not set on cyclone.

So possibly cleave.

Probably using corsair swords once im the right level.


so just switch cyclone for cleave. they benefit from all the same passives.
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so just switch cyclone for cleave. they benefit from all the same passives.


Ok thanks for the input.

But you think i should be using blood magic?

So get the passive? or just use the gems?

This post was edited by Limelighter on May 19 2013 10:50am
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May 19 2013 11:01am
Quote (Limelighter @ May 19 2013 04:49pm)
Ok thanks for the input.

But you think i should be using blood magic?

So get the passive? or just use the gems?


gems, once you are high enough level and have a large hp pool you can link auras to BM and % to your mana

depending on your build you should have life regen nodes to compensate for attacks with BM linked as well as cyclone drain
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Quote (kragujevac @ May 19 2013 01:01pm)
gems, once you are high enough level and have a large hp pool you can link auras to BM and % to your mana

depending on your build you should have life regen nodes to compensate for attacks with BM linked as well as cyclone drain


Im almost leaning on Just running a ele cleave build, and using cleave over cyclone, and Whirling blades over dual strike for movement
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May 19 2013 11:22am
Quote (Limelighter @ May 19 2013 05:19pm)
Im almost leaning on Just running a ele cleave build, and using cleave over cyclone, and Whirling blades over dual strike for movement


whirl, clone, with double or dual is standard anyways no need to remove one for another, cleave is fine until you run into reflect elemental, without good sustained leech from a cyclone (high aps) you can gib yourself with 1 or 2 cleaves
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May 19 2013 11:25am
So Im best to switch cleave for cyclone at a higher lvl?
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So Im best to switch cleave for cyclone at a higher lvl?


yes, once you start doing maps that may involve reflect
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