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Aug 14 2012 09:49pm
Quote (HayzBaby @ Aug 14 2012 10:47pm)
one more word of this from you and I'll remove you from the ladder with the moderators consent. Then we won't have to worry about it at all?  comprende?


do it, just shows how incompetent you are

if you can't beat em, ban em!


This post was edited by Jawn16 on Aug 14 2012 09:50pm
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Aug 14 2012 10:04pm
I gave you a chance, and you didn't take it. Have fun c/ting in pub games. You are no longer welcome here. Hate me for doing it, but we are here for more than updating this ladder. I've been around too long and have earned my respect to not have it bashed by a child.




Always check the Currently in Challenge section and don't forget to PM the user about the match!
Interested in joining? Please read the Ladder Rules before signing up! - Check First page!
The life replenish maximum limit has been reduced to 22!
The Use of C/T is Prohibited!
Updated ZvZ Ladder
Vacationing zons are marked with *





1. Warden / ccsutton / *sutton
2. Oats / Guru-PvP / *Guru.
3. Hayz / HayzBaby / *Hayz
4. Adidas / Tupac / *Swag
5. Recipe / LOLRagezzz / *thebestever
6. Arwa / TheBadLuitenant / *oliver.
7. Skittery / crunkinator / *skitzoz
8. Paisley / addesmile / *retaliate.
9. Sparr / Hepzibah / *Hepzibah
10. Bleaker / 00apacolypse / *Volcom-Army





Currently in Challenge

6. Arwa / TheBadLuitenant / *oliver. [vs.] 5. Recipe / LOLRagezzz / *thebestever ~ [Aug 18th]
7. Skittery / crunkinator / *skitzoz [vs.] 9. Sparr / Hepzibah / *Hepzibah ~ [Aug 16th]
1. Warden / ccsutton / *sutton [vs.] 2. Oats / Guru-PvP / *Guru. ~ [Aug 16th]





Previous Matches

11. Paisley / addesmile / *retaliate. [vs.] 9. AngryDiana / Habakkuk22 / *Habakkuk ~ [addesmile]
5. Arwa / TheBadLuitenant / *oliver. [vs.] 7. Adidas / Tupac / *Swag ~ [Tupac]





Mediators
LOLRagezzz
Habakkuk22
HayzBaby





*Vacationing Zons*
* Arelax
* CainC5
* Habakkuk22
* kasc
* matttieu
* rodpk
* slapo





:hail: US East Softcore NL ZvZ Legends
Full History Of BowaPK's #1 Ranked Defendants

Warden / ccsutton / *sutton [Defended 28x 1st Spot]
Desynch / ronnie17 / *ronnie17 [Defended 8x 1st Spot]
Crits / Arelax / *SScali [Defended 5x 1st Spot]
Shawshank / Guru-PvP / *Guru. [Defended 3x 1st Spot]
xCainx-CV / CainC5 / *CainC5 [Defended 2x 1st Spot]
Ama / BustaNut / *Illusionist [Defended 1x 1st spot]
OtepShamaya / SwanoW / *OtepShamaya [Defended 1x 1st Spot]
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Aug 14 2012 10:44pm
we've got a med who instabans dueling tactics and is unwilling to put it up for discussion/debate, so he bans the player as well for trying to do so

I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA?
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Aug 14 2012 10:48pm
Lol. is this polska pcl? banning c/t .. XD
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Aug 14 2012 11:17pm
Quote (iloveoov @ Aug 14 2012 11:48pm)
Lol. is this polska pcl? banning c/t .. XD


sure is
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Aug 15 2012 12:50am
Quote (Habakkuk22 @ Aug 14 2012 08:24am)
* Decoy ~ Needs to be banned entirely
I have nothing against the use of Decoy other than how it elongates the shit out of a match when both players are using Decoy as constant mobile Bone Armor
If one player starts using Decoy, then the other player starts using Decoy and this turns a 30 minute ft5 in to a 2 hour long ft5
In the end, the player with more skill/patience is going to win regardless of if they are using Decoy or not (Most people would agree with me on this)
It's just a matter of if this is going to happen in 30 minutes or 2 hours
This is why I strongly suggest that Decoy becomes banned in ZvZ ladders


You can't be serious... it tanks one arrow.

:rofl:



Quote (HayzBaby @ Aug 14 2012 06:48pm)
You can tell by the range and by the way the arrows act. Trust me, if you've been around long enough, you can tell


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Also, last I checked, guided arrow had a very simple mechanic of fly to where it's fired and then lock a nearby target (off visible screen if in LOS). How can you tell this, pro?















Thanks for taking my ladder that celeste, chris, and i worked so hard on; and turning it into a joke ld thread run by traders.
Jer if you needed help, you could have asked me.

This post was edited by Airwaves on Aug 15 2012 12:59am
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Aug 15 2012 06:53am
I'm taking back over.
Off all day so will have everyone where they should be.
I'll squash this shit today.
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Aug 15 2012 07:06am
Quote (Airwaves @ Aug 15 2012 02:50am)
You can't be serious... it tanks one arrow.
:rofl:

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Also, last I checked, guided arrow had a very simple mechanic of fly to where it's fired and then lock a nearby target (off visible screen if in LOS).  How can you tell this, pr0

Thanks for taking my ladder that celeste, chris, and i worked so hard on; and turning it into a joke ld thread run by traders.
Jer if you needed help, you could have asked me.


No, it tanks like 3 actual hits and dodges 3 times per cast when people start dumping points in to it, this is what happens with tweaked zvz builds
It's too much defensive play imo and what I am saying has nothing to do with an argument
These guys know I've been pushing to ban Decoy for some time now
I am not fond of 60+ minute ft5 matches, especially when I'm the guy standing in mediating the match ><



and this:

Quote (LOLRagezzz @ Aug 15 2012 08:53am)
I'm taking back over.
Off all day so will have everyone where they should be.
I'll squash this shit today.



Agreed, I'm going to say this once only:

C/T is not banned

When you start randomly banning in-game techniques you're just asking for more cheating and more arguments
People are going to use C/T and you'll never really be able to prove if they are or aren't doing it unless you make them fraps the entire match
That is just going too far and I'm sure none of the other meds want to sit and watch 60 minute amazon movies each and every time someone thinks C/T is being used
Let's avoid this Pandora's box please, people are finally joining and having fun again

As Jer has said multiple times now, keep the in-thread posts clean and free of spam
I don't want to remove/ban anyone for a stupid reason
Debate is fine but the shit talk and arguments need to stop
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Aug 15 2012 07:14am
C/t is a in game mechanic, I don't care if its used. Counter it.
Older zon players play far away.
New ones like to get up close.
Find your balance between those two.

Remember you can always request a mediator to sit in and view the game!
This is the best deterrent I've seen to l8z play.


Now I'm iso some warmups so I don't get roflstomped today. ;D





Always check the Currently in Challenge section and don't forget to PM the user about the match!
Interested in joining? Please read the Ladder Rules before signing up! - Check First page!
The life replenish maximum limit has been reduced to 22!
Updated ZvZ Ladder
Vacationing zons are marked with *





1. Warden / ccsutton / *sutton
2. Oats / Guru-PvP / *Guru.
3. GTL / Jawn16 / *HBO
4. Hayz / HayzBaby / *Hayz
5. Adidas / Tupac / *Swag
6. Recipe / LOLRagezzz / *thebestever
7. Arwa / TheBadLuitenant / *oliver.
8. Skittery / crunkinator / *skitzoz
9. Paisley / addesmile / *retaliate.
10. Sparr / Hepzibah / *Hepzibah
11. Bleaker / 00apacolypse / *Volcom-Army





Currently in Challenge

7. Arwa / TheBadLuitenant / *oliver. [vs.] 6. Recipe / LOLRagezzz / *thebestever ~ [Aug 18th]
8. Skittery / crunkinator / *skitzoz [vs.] 10. Sparr / Hepzibah / *Hepzibah ~ [Aug 16th]
1. Warden / ccsutton / *sutton [vs.] 2. Oats / Guru-PvP / *Guru. ~ [Aug 16th]





Previous Matches

3. GTL / Jawn16 / *HBO [vs.] 4. Hayz / HayzBaby / *Hayz ~ [Jawn16]
11. Paisley / addesmile / *retaliate. [vs.] 9. AngryDiana / Habakkuk22 / *Habakkuk ~ [addesmile]
5. Arwa / TheBadLuitenant / *oliver. [vs.] 7. Adidas / Tupac / *Swag ~ [Tupac]





Mediators
LOLRagezzz
Habakkuk22





*Vacationing Zons*
* Arelax
* CainC5
* Habakkuk22
* kasc
* matttieu
* rodpk
* slapo





:hail: US East Softcore NL ZvZ Legends
Full History Of BowaPK's #1 Ranked Defendants

Warden / ccsutton / *sutton [Defended 28x 1st Spot]
Desynch / ronnie17 / *ronnie17 [Defended 8x 1st Spot]
Crits / Arelax / *SScali [Defended 5x 1st Spot]
Shawshank / Guru-PvP / *Guru. [Defended 3x 1st Spot]
xCainx-CV / CainC5 / *CainC5 [Defended 2x 1st Spot]
Ama / BustaNut / *Illusionist [Defended 1x 1st spot]
OtepShamaya / SwanoW / *OtepShamaya [Defended 1x 1st Spot]
GTL / Jawn16 / *HBO [Defended 1x 1st Spot]


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Aug 15 2012 07:33am
Quote (Habakkuk22 @ Aug 15 2012 07:06am)
No, it tanks like 3 actual hits and dodges 3 times per cast when people start dumping points in to it, this is what happens with tweaked zvz builds
It's too much defensive play imo and what I am saying has nothing to do with an argument
These guys know I've been pushing to ban Decoy for some time now


wait people actually do that?

no wonder these kids all use vita zons. :rofl:



just restrict decoy to 1 point and fix that problem pre-emptively.

This post was edited by Airwaves on Aug 15 2012 07:36am
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