ooh now that would be scary

yeah weaj just dueled me a bunch using a 15% ll build, demonstrates that leech > sumo
like i already said

I told you I've tested it on various chars. It can't beat melees or range physical (bowas and throwers)





EITHER WAY

So we are up for this? I can make a new thread with rules and characters, but I need to know what is allowed and what isn't. Any other builds we think should or should not be allowed in?


No:
Fball/fwall/blizz/light sorcs
hdin/physical charger
bone nec
LS trap/WOF trapsin
Bowa/Plaguer
Teledruid (maybe normal druid too? dunno on that one)/Fissure
WW barbs


General Rules:
-No dupes.
-No third party programs (hacks)
-General (no nk, gs, jumping)
-No health or juv pots
-No +Max Res% (75 res all)
-No Holy Freeze or Slow of any kind (unless the char is a froster)
-General l8zing rules, extensive use of walls or houses to run. Running to replen.
-No Prebuff
-Poison Length reduction is allowed if it's not swap gear. Going to stash to throw on i.e. death's set to duel a plaguer is bm. Having plr on an item you use normally regardless of poison damage, is fine.
-No Holy bolt (tvt)

Paladin Rules:
-No Cleansing

Zon Rules:
-No slow missiles. This gets tricky with Peace armor, in most tournaments if Peace procs the duel continues. However, some duelers may choose to null the duel or when it procs, wait and then continue.

Druid Rules:
-No recasting cyclone armor

Necro Rules (more than any other class):
-Bone prisons are just like HLD, they can be used on teleporting characters only.
-Max amount of bone walls on a screen is 4
-No Recasting Bone Armor
-Only Amplify damage and Lower res curses allowed.
-No skeles/revives.

This post was edited by Cadagan on Nov 6 2010 11:27pm

eh?
vs bowa/thrower/etc is all a matter of teleporting around letting minions smack them

they can certainly put up a fight and its not entirely 1 sided, but all you really gotta do is keep teleing on top of them with a stack
its particularly effective with the range/speed on a grizzly vs wsg bowas for example.

vs melee if they don't have enough life leech to overcome your thorns its entirely onesided.
mind it doesn't take particularly much life leech to beat thorns due to the way it stacks up





and id really say can the es/orb sorcs.
things get really degenerate when you try to match a l8z es/orb sorc with mass regen against say a ieap papa
forces everyone to carry mass cold resist / mdr

This post was edited by Goomshill on Nov 6 2010 11:29pm

rejoin lld101 and I'll show you what I mean.

would you like me to show you why you're wrong about vs bowa?

Throw/WW/Howl....I win. ShoopDaWhoopLol1

the duels were really close
if he has life leech / dr setup he wins
if not :S

run out of mana long before anyone is dead tho, needs to be an insight duel

That was me, on my pcrown thrower. String of ears means I could pretty much sit there and double throw. No life leech ofc makes it interesting.


bowa ofc was >
smiter took some work but all I'd have to do is throw a honor on swap and put 1 pt in zeal
cser > (since I don't skill dodges)

This post was edited by Cadagan on Nov 7 2010 12:20am

insanity wolf > all

This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 7 2010 01:00am