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May 11 2010 12:04am
Quote (bigspot_05 @ May 11 2010 06:01am)
with a 2 socket scepter, you still make all your bps for speed and such.

the only downside to that scepter is range 2, versus range 3 from a flail


my smiter uses both a flail and an amp scepter
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May 11 2010 12:05am
its actually a 50% chance to have amped after 14 hits, not 20
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May 11 2010 12:08am
Quote (Ass_Hat @ May 11 2010 02:04am)
my smiter uses both a flail and an amp scepter


i know

there are times when you need the flail (barbs...) but most of the time the scepter will be better.
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Quote (elusive @ May 11 2010 06:03am)
range 2 vs range 3
having to put yourself in a melee position for a bit for tvt, 5% is 1/20 hit
not sure on ias BPs, but not having 20-30% on your weapon probably will drop you a frame

overall i dont see the need to neglect a 2 pcombat/30 ias/2 sock flail for 5% amp.  the 3 Fanct helps, but i highly doubt enough to outweigh an optimal smiter weapon

at 30 im fairly sure by the time you smite 20 times, the duel is over.  granted if it procs first 2-3 smites you'll get a huge benefit, but otherwise i cant see it playing a giant factor


again, range 3 is only helpful in some situations. A smiter that actually participates in non toe to toe duels should have both a scpeter and a flail. You need not sacrafice anything. ALso, base ias on a war scepter is not needed. You can hit max smite bp with only 40 ias (2 shaels) on your wep.

And...in smite vs smite or smite vs melee duels amp procs probably 1/3 to half of the time.
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May 11 2010 12:09am
Quote (Ass_Hat @ May 11 2010 02:08am)
again, range 3 is only helpful in some situations. A smiter that actually participates in non toe to toe duels should have both a scpeter and a flail. You need not sacrafice anything. ALso, base ias on a war scepter is not needed. You can hit max smite bp with only 40 ias (2 shaels) on your wep.

And...in smite vs smite or smite vs melee duels amp procs probably 1/3 to half of the time.


ah, i wasnt aware you'd hit the same ias bp

if 5% amp procs that much then its better than i thought.

This post was edited by elusive on May 11 2010 12:09am
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if its taking you more than 14 smites to kill someone, you're going to proc it more often than not
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its true, amp proc's constantly for some reason....its a lot fucking higher than 5% >.<
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May 11 2010 12:23am
with smite it would seem more often than a normal attack that gets blocked 3/4 of the time

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May 11 2010 01:18am
getting a flail also is not a problem for me.. Here is what Id like to know:

Is this a useful weapon?
Did I overpay?
What other gear should I obtain?
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May 11 2010 02:38am
Quote (Spohnholtz @ May 11 2010 04:18am)
getting a flail also is not a problem for me.. Here is what Id like to know:

Is this a useful weapon?
Did I overpay?
What other gear should I obtain?


yes
probably
try to figure out by yourself and you'll get help
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