I just tested MP3, which is the equivalent of 104 (well actually monsters hit a tad harder, I took the war cry nerf into account ... I did my calcs, they hit like 10-15% more than 104 dmg at MP3)

MP 0 is a joke, monsters dmg is laughable and an EXTRA HEALTH firemage champ pack had 900k hp LOL

I didnt change a single thing around in my gear from 104 ...

here is my stats

45k dps / 60k dps wotb
430 loh
11 life leech
mace / dagger setup
5500 armor
700 AR
38k hp

So yeah pathetic setup as you can see but somehow I facerolled it easier than b4!

Anyway .... they hit harder with the actual numbers I saw ... BUT they die quicker somehow, (did they have some hidden armor ratings that were lowered or removed?, it rly feels they go down quicker), I was also able to whirl IN molten plagued firechains (wtf?) and leech like crazy. I gain fury faster than before too (though I DID switch slaughter to thrive on chaos, and NO i do not have issues keeping it up as long as there are mobs around obviously ... but it was always like that), doesnt even feel like anything was nerfed! Except the difficulty!

So just a heads up guys! You can now still farm 105 at the same difficulty level of 104 with the added benefit of FREE 75 mf and 36% exp gain!

Reckon I could even take on MP4-5 with this average barb! We will see, just a heads up!

There are new unique (purple) monsters tied to some random events .... like that captain haile or spyglass events, well even vs this purple ghoul mob (molten defiler I believe) I was keeping up fury! against single target I was actually keeping up fury too, how crazy is that.

oh yeah the purple unique for that spyglass crazy climber event dropped 3 yellows for me with 5 stack .... and hes easier to kill than some usual flyer champ pack, spawns instead of them now. its a demon trooper with molten plagued elec frozen, but ezcake

This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Sep 26 2012 11:24am

good to know, started a barb shortly before I heard anything about patch update, its fairly basic as well, slightly shittier then yours but still tanks a1/a2 with ease and with mf gear

I still dont believe it. On mp4 now, this actually feels like 104 now. MP3 felt easier. Just insane .... I can farm as before without any change in gear and free mf and exp bonus.

Try mp5 and up and you'll see the differences

@OP- this is so because you are using life leech instead of LoH actually. 11 ll is prety high.
LL depemds on your damage output and LoH is just flat. The nerf mainly concerns loh-only barbs as the main healing for them comes from the tornadoes spawned by Sprint. They nerfed the proc rate (loh, into the fray, etc.) of those tornadoes. While the nerf is unnoticeable for the fury generation as long as you have high crit chance and monsters around, it is very noticeable for the LoH part.
So a npbudget barb with 10-20k dps and 1500 LoH will not heal the way you are with the 11% ll.
This is wherrnthe nerf will come imto play. You will need good dmg and high ll to be able to do the same you were previously able to do with LoH alone.

thats my point tho - I dont want to mention the higher mp levels - average barb like mine is NOT meant to compete in even mp4, ppl were saying the cheap geared barbs will never make it in even mp2-3, since its equivalent to 104 and we are now nerfed, both coefficients and defense stats. Well, I honestly am surviving better and killing faster in mp3, and only when im on mp4 it feels like 104.






i think its easier to go high ll like me than high loh tbh .... belt, bloodthirst and ll on both weapons BEFORE ll becomes more of an expensive 'to pay for' stat. And tbh 10-20k dps is way too low for farming a3, unless you mean an a1-2 barb.

@markilbaldacchino - I started farming A3 with my 20k DPS (unbuffed) barb with 1600 LoH, 1k @res (buffed warc) and ~9k armor (buffed) and was still better than farming A2,
High LL is easy to achieve. High LL with enough damage to make it work - not so low budget.
I built my barb w/ ~6m at the time.
After 1.0.5 a good barb will probably take you ~40m to be able to farm efficiently A3 MP3-4. This is with current item prices, which will inevitably fall down since there will be more powerful items found found in MP6+.

Is extra EXP confirmed for inferno MP levels? I remember reading on blizzard site that they tweaked it for 1-60, didn't mention 60+para.

Total XP values for inferno per MP:
*MP1 - 10% (+10%)
*MP2 - 20% (+10%)
*MP3 - 30% (+10%)
*MP4 - 45% (+15%)
*MP5 - 60% (+15%)
*MP6 - 75% (+20%)
*MP7 - 95% (+20%)
*MP8 - 115% (+20%)
*MP9 - 135% (+20%)
*MP10 - 160% (+25%)

This post was edited by ekunholy on Sep 27 2012 02:55am