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Jun 19 2013 01:42pm
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Hmm, why are you using a 2h on your barb? Don't you prefer a shield with you?

I can just imagine your rends though :o
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Hmm, why are you using a 2h on your barb? Don't you prefer a shield with you?

I can just imagine your rends though :o



I dont normally use the 2 hander, but yeah it actually makes a massive difference when u use a weapon with a larger base in this game, since your weapon damage determines how much damage alot of your abilities do, just looking at the "DPS" of the weapon isnt good enuf, because that incorporates the IAS of the weapon as well as the BASE to determine the DPS, when your trying to max damage on things like rend, or SSS, Turrets, then IAS is actually usless, these abilties dont scale off it at all, i barely ever use the 2 hander on my barb tho :P since barbs actually scale quite nicely off IAS, i just found a new 2 hander tho for the "Tank Monk" idea i have, which is stacking defense and using a high base 2 hander to still get tonz of dermagerz outta SSS, it actually works really well, and i found a mace with an INSANELY high base (109-126 Highest ive EVER seen at level 30) to test it, its quite unkillable against other monks and barbs :) pretty kewl.

Next thing im doing is making a WD with over 100 Life per hit and 4.5ish% lifesteal :P gunna test out if those 2 things combined could actually make a difference. :P

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I dont normally use the 2 hander, but yeah it actually makes a massive difference when u use a weapon with a larger base in this game, since your weapon damage determines how much damage alot of your abilities do, just looking at the "DPS" of the weapon isnt good enuf, because that incorporates the IAS of the weapon as well as the BASE to determine the DPS, when your trying to max damage on things like rend, or SSS, Turrets, then IAS is actually usless, these abilties dont scale off it at all, i barely ever use the 2 hander on my barb tho :P since barbs actually scale quite nicely off IAS, i just found a new 2 hander tho for the "Tank Monk" idea i have, which is stacking defense and using a high base 2 hander to still get tonz of dermagerz outta SSS, it actually works really well, and i found a mace with an INSANELY high base (109-126 Highest ive EVER seen at level 30) to test it, its quite unkillable against other monks and barbs :) pretty kewl.

Next thing im doing is making a WD with over 100 Life per hit and 4.5ish% lifesteal :P gunna test out if those 2 things combined could actually make a difference. :P


Also tried something similar with my own monk, works okay, there's better builds imo

Btw, dont forget spirit reg on head, gloves and wep :)
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Jun 20 2013 09:17am
bah. scarbringer > all

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Quote (Orvar @ Jun 20 2013 03:36am)
Also tried something similar with my own monk, works okay, there's better builds imo

Btw, dont forget spirit reg on head, gloves and wep :)



Theres no spirit regen on gloves? Jus Head / Weap. Finding a level reduced 2 hander with spirit regen and good dps is pretty hard.

Also to make this build work well u need a 2 hander with over 105 base, at least, which i doubt u tried, every 10 dmg on ur weapon base, is basically like having another 5-10 ring on. The weapon i found is 126 base, i do so much more with SSS and Bell than u can possibly do with a 1 hander, and have 13k health, so i can pretty much run around till SSS is up, and that "gain 9.5 life every spirit spent" with unlimited TR is pretty beast. 80regen / sec as long as i TR.

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bah. scarbringer > all


Scarbringers have such a low base, they only show good numbers in DPS cuz they have the IAS of a dagger basically, Monks dont scale hard enuf off IAS to make it worth while to use, a 110 dps scarbringer would do TONZ less damage with SSS and Bell than it would with a good 2 hander, high base.

Scarbringers jus make ur character sheet dps look good, so ur epeen grows :P lol not actually the best option, prolly part of the reason monks are at the bottom of the list, cuz ppl play them like they are IAS dpsers, and stack the shit outa IAS.
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Jun 20 2013 12:05pm
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Theres no spirit regen on gloves? Jus Head / Weap. Finding a level reduced 2 hander with spirit regen and good dps is pretty hard.

Also to make this build work well u need a 2 hander with over 105 base, at least, which i doubt u tried, every 10 dmg on ur weapon base, is basically like having another 5-10 ring on. The weapon i found is 126 base, i do so much more with SSS and Bell than u can possibly do with a 1 hander, and have 13k health, so i can pretty much run around till SSS is up, and that "gain 9.5 life every spirit spent" with unlimited TR is pretty beast. 80regen / sec as long as i TR.



Scarbringers have such a low base, they only show good numbers in DPS cuz they have the IAS of a dagger basically, Monks dont scale hard enuf off IAS to make it worth while to use, a 110 dps scarbringer would do TONZ less damage with SSS and Bell than it would with a good 2 hander, high base.

Scarbringers jus make ur character sheet dps look good, so ur epeen grows :P lol not actually the best option, prolly part of the reason monks are at the bottom of the list, cuz ppl play them like they are IAS dpsers, and stack the shit outa IAS.


Frostburn bro, frostburn

You better start your searching :D

And well, I had quite some high base dmg on my 2h actually

This post was edited by Orvar on Jun 20 2013 12:06pm
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Jun 20 2013 12:34pm
How active are LLD's?
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Frostburn bro, frostburn

You better start your searching :D

And well, I had quite some high base dmg on my 2h actually



LoL frostburns not worth using for spirit regen, to much stat loss.
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Jun 20 2013 12:40pm
Quote (Ir0nside @ Jun 20 2013 07:34pm)
LoL frostburns not worth using for spirit regen, to much stat loss.


Not necessarely, you can find quite good ones tbh

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How active are LLD's?


Im not sure anylonger :O havent dueled for a lil while
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