hes putting thought into how he plays, im sure this will help him improve as a player, maybe u should try it instead of saying uhhhhhhh

There are some problems though. I will list them:

1. Lee Sin is banned 90% of all ranked games.
2. Nocturne's ganks pre 6 are not as good as Alistar's/Singed's/Nautilus's (same with Udyr(no good ganks without red at all) and Skarner), also he is pretty item reliant.
3. Rammus can't counterjungle, he would be a ganker aswell, but he does only profit from 1-2 gold items.

And there are of course alot of viable choices, just not optimal

This post was edited by KirkHammett on May 7 2012 01:56am

I get this, but it's a fuck ton to read and it's late and my eyes hurt and uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh idk dude
just idk

NO GOODLUCK FOR YOU

This post was edited by xrmd on May 7 2012 01:47am

Edited: xrmd is NOT a lazy fuck!!!!^^

This post was edited by KirkHammett on May 7 2012 01:47am

Lazy? No. Just have better things to do then read that wall of text for 5 minutes at 3:41 A.M.

I'll retract my good-luck. You are quite rude sir, after the luck I wished upon you, you call me a "lazy fuck"? Pshh, good riddance.

Wow you are really easily offended.. I also edited a smiley to make it sound that I wasn't too serious. Nvm, sorry mate if I hurt your feelings

I felt that the flame here is quite high, so the people here are a bit more, well, "solid" ^^

This post was edited by KirkHammett on May 7 2012 01:51am

Oftentimes it's better to gank the lanes that are doing good.

what is the purpose of this thread? winning/carrying, or achieving the better team comp? your 2 favorites are the extremes of each spectrum LOL. also, what elo is this? where im at, lee sin is only banned maybe 50% of the time at most but im only mid gold ish.

i counter jungle in every situation

i almost always get first blood at their red, or i take it

tbh i think ganking takes huge precedence over counterjungling as long as ure ganking doesnt take too much time and is successful the majority of the time

countering buffs is pretty huge, but small camps dont cripple the enemy jungler since it gives them more of a reason to camp another lane and the camp is back in a minute anyway

getting a kill gives that lane freefarm until their jungler comes, which is also good since ure other lanes know where he is