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Jun 19 2012 06:22am
Regardless of who you pray tothere is only one way to enter into Heaven.

All you have to do is talk to our Father God, you can do that right where you are. You don't have to physically speak, although you can. With sincerity, He will hear you right where you are. You have to realize you are a sinner and need forgiveness, for which God's unconditional grace will allow. You have to truly believe that Jesus Christ died for your sins and rose from the dead. You have to be willing to turn from your sins and when you are ready the Lord will help you. His help is ALL you need! Ask Jesus Christ to come into your heart, tell Him you want Him to be your personal Savior. Ask for Him to Baptize you with His Holy Spirit, to give you a boldness to change and follow Him. Believe that He will give you the Holy Spirit, and you will be drastically changed. Thank God for His unconditional grace He offers, which we don't deserve, the only reason you become forgiven of your sins is by His grace. Ask forgiveness for your sins, and remember to continually do so and forgive others!

Acts 2:38 (KJV)
"38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."

1 John 1:9 (KJV)
"9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

John 3:16 (KJV)
"16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Etc.

I know there are saved Catholics and some who aren't. I also know some who are "Christians" have never truly accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior. How do you know if you have truly accepted Jesus Christ? You will notice a lifestyle change, a major difference in your way of life. If you have not changed and are turning away from sin, than from a Biblical stance, you are not saved.

And I do not pray to Mary, nor do I see anywhere Biblical where I should pray to Mary.
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Jun 19 2012 06:31am
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Mary is son of Jesus right ?  Jesus is son of God right ?  Jesus is God right ?  Therefore Mary is the mother of God

period


You failed to quote a single verse, you are just like the pope, haven't read the bible at all. I just finished studying revelation and I can tell you the "Christian in name" will face a much harsher punishment than others. You keep living your life without reading the bible and calling yourself a christian, and we will see where that gets you.

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Mary is son of Jesus right ?  Jesus is son of God right ?  Jesus is God right ?  Therefore Mary is the mother of God

period


Now that I have some time on my hands, lets take you to Sunday school.

Lets start off by saying that Mary is the mother of Jesus as a man, not as a God, Jesus is a Man and also a God. The Son of God was alive even before the start of time, refer to John 1:1. Jesus as a Godly spirit became a man, refer to John 1:14. Mary gave birth to Jesus in flesh, she is his mother as a man, but not in spirit, because Jesus is our father he is the head and the church is the body. We are all born dead in spirit and are made alive through the acceptance of Christ Jesus as our Savior through his grace. Mary did not create the son of God, because he is referenced many times even before his birth, he existed before he was born, he was not created by Mary.

I could give you 100 verses why Mary is not divine and also why no human is divine. You can not give me 1 verse to make an argument because Catholics do not believe in biblical scripture, they believe in superstitions and stories from false teachers. Show me a verse where Jesus called her mother, show me where she claimed she is the mother of God.

You need to remember, that Mary wasn't the one who rose from the dead. I pray to a living god, a divine god, a righteous and just god, a loving god, Christ Jesus. You can pray to whoever you like, just remember you make God angry by doing that.
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Jun 19 2012 07:19am
Quote (LiquidZerg @ 19 Jun 2012 07:31)
You failed to quote a single verse, you are just like the pope, haven't read the bible at all. I just finished studying revelation and I can tell you the "Christian in name" will face a much harsher punishment than others. You keep living your life without reading the bible and calling yourself a christian, and we will see where that gets you.


Are you saying that I will go to Hell because I say its ok to pray Mary the mother of God ? LOL

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Are you saying that I will go to Hell because I say its ok to pray Mary the mother of God ?  LOL


I am no judge, only Jesus is the eternal judge. So you have no verse to show that she is the mother of God? do they allow bibles at your church? when was the last time you read the bible? are you even born again?
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Jun 19 2012 07:40am
What mean born again ? I was born once, its enough and Im catholic which is the mother church and yes, Mary is the mother of Jesus who is son of God. So Mary is the mother of God.

I also read and studied the Bible. Reporting Verses is one thing, understanding of the Bible is another one.

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What mean born again ? I was born once, its enough and Im catholic which is the mother church and yes, Mary is the mother of Jesus who is son of God. So Mary is the mother of God.

I also read and studied the Bible. Reporting Verses is one thing, understanding of the Bible is another one.


You were born once, you were born with sin, if you are not born again it means you are not born spiritually. You have read the bible? because you obviously didn't read the most important chapter John 3.

Jesus said, if you are not born again you will not see the kingdom of God, being born once is not enough.

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Jun 19 2012 08:16am
Well, Ive been baptised when I was young. I assume its the same thing than what you called born again.
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Well, Ive been baptised when I was young. I assume its the same thing than what you called born again.



I'm very sorry to say but it isn't. I too who was raised an Orthodox believed that, I believed being baptized as an infant would of cleansed me from my sins, but the truth is that you must be baptized spiritually, only when I was 33 I understood what being born again meant.

Being born again means to accept Jesus as your lord and Savior, to have a relationship with God to know him on a personal level, to accept salvation by grace by his death on the cross for your sins and paying the penalty (the wage of sin is death) even though we deserved death, he loved us so he paid the penalty for us. When you become born again, you name is written in the book of life, your spirit is no longer dead and you will be anointed by the Holy Spirit which will guide you to righteousness. You will no longer live for yourself but for God, you will no longer be a slave to sin but a servant of the Lord.

Being born again is a moment, and a moment you will never forget because it is the only time you become really alive. You will feel like all your life you were dead and only become alive when it happens, everything you have done, any sins you have committed will be forgiven and you will become a heir of God, you will have eternal inheritance in his kingdom. When Jesus was on the cross, one of the two criminals who were also being crucified next to him believed in Jesus, in this moment he became born again and was saved, everything forgiven.

Put your trust and faith in Jesus and you will rise from death just as he did.

1 Peter 1:3,4
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you.

This post was edited by LiquidZerg on Jun 19 2012 09:46am
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Actually the sacrement of confirmation is a supplement/complementary of the baptism because most of people recived it when child so, not mature enough to realise what they are doing.
So yes, it is the same as we accept Jesus in our lives. same value
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