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https://www.yahoo.com/news/cash-no-credit-libertarians-shake-165656710.html

I'm sure you fellow Viking fans are tickled pink by this move in your back yard!
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I'm sure you fellow Viking fans are tickled pink by this move in your back yard!


I know a lot of the people pushing a few select cities locally to get libertarian control, and Crystal is definitely one of them. Amazing how people bitch that they saved the city a million dollars paying cash from reserves instead of debt financing. They were also forward looking on getting prepped to handle water projects. It's also not as if it won't be easier to recapitalize the reserve fund when they're not making debt service payments.
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"libertarian control"

kekz lul.
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"libertarian control"

kekz lul.


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Lulz.
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I know a lot of the people pushing a few select cities locally to get libertarian control, and Crystal is definitely one of them. Amazing how people bitch that they saved the city a million dollars paying cash from reserves instead of debt financing. They were also forward looking on getting prepped to handle water projects. It's also not as if it won't be easier to recapitalize the reserve fund when they're not making debt service payments.


I've said for a long time the more local a govt is the more practical libertarian ideals are to run it. City govts seem to be the best place, as the "lets just help eachother and let the govt stay out of it" mentality is more effective on a city wide level. And cities staying away from debt seems to be a win win to me.
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I've said for a long time the more local a govt is the more practical libertarian ideals are to run it. City govts seem to be the best place, as the "lets just help eachother and let the govt stay out of it" mentality is more effective on a city wide level. And cities staying away from debt seems to be a win win to me.


I actually agree. I could be swayed to vote for a local libertarian.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Nov 1 2016 08:42am)
I actually agree. I could be swayed to vote for a local libertarian.


I tend to laugh at national candidates for Libertarians. The inability to pivot for general is the same issue the GOP has only on less popular reforms. If you can't get off the "we will abolish the IRS" wagon you won't get elected. If you can't get off the "Roe v. Wade comes off the books in the first 100 days" wagon you won't get elected.

But ushering local govts to work mostly as oversight with some help to local organizations works well. Libertarians are effective up to, but not exceeding, governors IMO. Depending on the state perhaps not even governor, California for example. But there could be an extraordinary candidate who breaks the tropes, its just not Johnson.
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You are missing the obvious fact that in order for local governments or communities to be allowed to solve their own issues the federal government can't interfere and prevent them from doing so.. which makes libertarians the obvious best choice at the federal level for achieving that goal.
A large part of any Libertarian or (l)ibertarian federal government platform already consists of keeping the feds out of what should be local issues.

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You are missing the obvious fact that in order for local governments or communities to be allowed to solve their own issues the federal government can't interfere and prevent them from doing so.. which makes libertarians the obvious best choice at the federal level for achieving that goal.
A large part of any Libertarian or (l)ibertarian federal government platform already consists of keeping the feds out of what should be local issues.


I somewhat agree. However with the GOP trying to push ANYTHING they can back into state choice...

I think a meta of state run politics could be put in place without any help from the libertarian party directly, then the libertarians can take the baton at the state level and local level, which state govts. are more receptive to than fed. govt by a mile.
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