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Sep 12 2014 05:29pm
Namby pamby bleeding heart liberals have made discipline in the family illegal and aren't content to just spoil their own brats so they grow up as entitled transexual hipsters, but want to enforce their own bad parenting on everyone else.
Why are there talking heads and legislators today that pretend as if whooping a boy for acting out of turn should be considered on the same level as domestic abuse, as wife beating or knocking a fiancee unconscious and dragging her body around like a sack of meat?
I bet you none of those quivering vaginas got the beating they deserved as a kid. When you grow up and stop being a whiny 10 year old, you learn that sister margaret and her lightning crack ruler was the one who made you grow up hard and fast.
Instead these laws are the result of generations of coddling, they never grew up and still think she's a big meanie butt. Well this is America getting its chickens come home to roost.

This is against history, against tradition, against human nature and how we evolved. If pain didn't have a purpose, it wouldn't exist.
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Sep 12 2014 05:33pm
So probably bringing this up due to Adrian Peterson news.

There's seem to be a valid case for clear neglect in this case. He used "discipline" that left marks that lasted after a week. There's talk he admitted to being under the influence of alcohol during the spankings. And he's using a belt on a 4 year old. You really think it's discipline to use a belt on a 4 year old?

As far as the topic at hand. There's really no common ground to be had on the issue. A lot of views and opinions on it are based on your own upbringing on it. Even though a lot of studies have been done on it that show it has adverse effects on a kids development potentially.

And if you think some bad apples kids would be reduce because they get "disciplined", then you got no clue. Maybe spanking them would make them even more fucked up. Child development isn't black and white, some kids are stronger than others mentally.
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Sep 12 2014 05:43pm
Quote (sir_lance_bb @ Sep 12 2014 05:33pm)
So probably bringing this up due to Adrian Peterson news.

There's seem to be a valid case for clear neglect in this case. He used "discipline" that left marks that lasted after a week. There's talk he admitted to being under the influence of alcohol during the spankings. And he's using a belt on a 4 year old. You really think it's discipline to use a belt on a 4 year old?

As far as the topic at hand. There's really no common ground to be had on the issue. A lot of views and opinions on it are based on your own upbringing on it. Even though a lot of studies have been done on it that show it has adverse effects on a kids development potentially.

And if you think some bad apples kids would be reduce because they get "disciplined", then you got no clue. Maybe spanking them would make them even more fucked up. Child development isn't black and white, some kids are stronger than others mentally.


My dogs left marks that lasted months just playing around. I got marks that lasted a week from scratching my arm too hard. Thats *nothing*
And no, he's not using a metal belt, he's using a switch, he even has pictures of himself next to the tree he took it from. And yes, its a long american history of using a switch on a misbehaving child

And yes I think discipline produces better kids. Bullshit biased researchers with an agenda can produce whatever fakery they want. Everyone who has actually grown up and seen the world has seen spoiled children and what they become.
Doctor spock was as wrong a fraud as the freud he loved to quote. And even he acknowledged physical punishment
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Sep 12 2014 05:47pm
...aw crap , the NFL is fast becoming the National Intervention and Therapy League . So far this season we've had to suffer the distractions of a gay player , marijuana suspensions and domestic abuse . Now we have a new issue to deal with and we haven't even reached week 2 games . :fume:
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Sep 12 2014 08:18pm
Corporal punishment should be banned in all forms for all people.

Obviously a distinction needs to be made between minor contact and legitimate corporal punishment which could prove difficult.

In a nutshell, if it would count as battery or assault if done against an adult, it shouldn't be allowed against a child.
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Sep 12 2014 10:13pm
Normally, I'm all for giving children spankings when they deserve it. However, 1 or 2 strikes are usually sufficient. If you look at the pictures, you could see that it's excessive.
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Sep 12 2014 10:17pm
one should apply the non aggression principle in all matters, hitting a child is the resort of fools who cant use the noodle between their shoulders to reason any other method of discipline. Hitting children doesnt serve them any good either.



This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Sep 12 2014 10:18pm
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one should apply the non aggression principle in all matters, hitting a child is the resort of fools who cant use the noodle between their shoulders to reason any other method of discipline. Hitting children doesnt serve them any good either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONNRfflggBg


Children disobeying their parents violates the non-aggression principle so it is justified.
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Sep 12 2014 10:18pm
Quote (Master_Zappy @ Sep 13 2014 12:17am)
one should apply the non aggression principle in all matters, hitting a child is the last resort of fools who cant use the noodle between their shoulders to reason any other method of discipline. Hitting children doesnt serve them any good either.


100% vouch, didn't watch the video so can't vouch that.

Quote (thundercock @ Sep 13 2014 12:18am)
Children disobeying their parents violates the non-aggression principle


No I believe it does not.

This post was edited by Voyaging on Sep 12 2014 10:19pm
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Sep 12 2014 10:23pm
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No I believe it does not.


Of course it is. It's a breach of contract.
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