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May 17 2013 11:39am
I hear a lot these days about the link between SSRIs (Anti-Depressants) and violent/suicidal behaviour.

Fox news offers an opinion:



While the fact that so many school shooters were users of SSRIs, I want your opinions (this is not a gun-control thread).

Do you think that SSRIs are used by the government to bring out this behaviour?

Do you think they're effective in treating mental disorders?

Do you think this is all bullshit?

I want your opinions.
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May 17 2013 11:57am
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May 17 2013 12:44pm
Quote (PesChye @ May 17 2013 12:39pm)

Do you think that SSRIs are used by the government to bring out this behaviour?

Do you think they're effective in treating mental disorders?

Do you think this is all bullshit?


1. No, because that makes no sense whatsoever.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.

You really need to figure out the difference between correlation and causation. People who are violent and/or suicidal are typically put on SSRIs as a way to regulate irregular brain chemistry. SSRIs are also not a magic set of drugs, you can still be suicidal and violent while on them. They are most effectively used in conjunction with therapy and other treatments.

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May 17 2013 12:51pm
These conspiracies are bullshit and should be ridiculed. The dangers of anti-depressants and other mental health prescriptions are negligible or non-existent when administered correctly.

One issue with anti-depressants is when someone with type 2 bipolar is misdiagnosed with severe depression. In which case, the person needs a mood stabalizer and their current medication makes manic episodes more frequent or worse.

The diagnosis can be difficult to make if the patient doesn't provide enough information to the doctor. In the case of type 2 bipolar, a sufferer of the condition will have more episodes of deep depression than mania, which looks exactly like clinical depression. Anti-depressants increase a person's serotonin and dopamine levels, which is really harmful to a person experiencing bipolar. Hence, the increased suicide rates under these medications or erratic behavior.

Anti-depressants aren't helpful to teens and children because the brain doesn't stop developing until your 20s. However, there are still safe medications available, doctors just have to be more cautious when prescribing them and patients have to let them know immediately if something is wrong.

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May 17 2013 12:56pm
Quote (rockonkenshin @ May 17 2013 01:44pm)
1. No, because that makes no sense whatsoever.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.

You really need to figure out the difference between correlation and causation. People who are violent and/or suicidal are typically put on SSRIs as a way to regulate irregular brain chemistry. SSRIs are also not a magic set of drugs, you can still be suicidal and violent while on them. They are most effectively used in conjunction with therapy and other treatments.


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May 17 2013 01:03pm
Quote (sylvannos @ May 17 2013 01:51pm)
These conspiracies are bullshit and should be ridiculed. The dangers of anti-depressants and other mental health prescriptions are negligible or non-existent when administered correctly.

One issue with anti-depressants is when someone with type 2 bipolar is misdiagnosed with severe depression. In which case, the person needs a mood stabalizer and their current medication makes manic episodes more frequent or worse.

The diagnosis can be difficult to make if the patient doesn't provide enough information to the doctor. In the case of type 2 bipolar, a sufferer of the condition will have more episodes of deep depression than mania, which looks exactly like clinical depression. Anti-depressants increase a person's serotonin and dopamine levels, which is really harmful to a person experiencing bipolar. Hence, the increased suicide rates under these medications or erratic behavior.

Anti-depressants aren't helpful to teens and children because the brain doesn't stop developing until your 20s. However, there are still safe medications available, doctors just have to be more cautious when prescribing them and patients have to let them know immediately if something is wrong.


I'm quoting this because it's also very important to note. SSRIs aren't magic, they can be harmful if administered incorrectly and can allow a person to have control over their lives when administered in the right way together with the right primary treatment.

What SSRIs don't do:

They don't "Turn you into a zombie/superhappyomg/whatever". They simply regulate things like seratonin and dopamine to stop a person from going from one extreme to the next (i.e. manic and depressive episodes).
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May 17 2013 01:22pm
Quote (rockonkenshin @ 17 May 2013 16:14)
1. No, because that makes no sense whatsoever.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.

You really need to figure out the difference between correlation and causation. People who are violent and/or suicidal are typically put on SSRIs as a way to regulate irregular brain chemistry. SSRIs are also not a magic set of drugs, you can still be suicidal and violent while on them. They are most effectively used in conjunction with therapy and other treatments.


Hey, brah, The questions I ask don't reflect my personal views. I take SSRIs, you don't have to tell me that this is bullshit.

I'm trying to remain unbiased, I often don't offer my own opinions in the original post because it'll affect what other people say.

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May 17 2013 01:26pm
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May 17 2013 01:41pm
Yes, they're extremely dangerous and they need to stop drugging people, especially kids. It's an endless cycle of drugging people > mass shootings > gun control. Over, and over, and over, and over through the media until you have a bunch of idiots brainwashed enough to believe zomg 30 round magazines must be banned!! Think of the children! It really is quite sad to watch what should be an intelligent species be so easily abused and exploited intellectually :(
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May 17 2013 01:51pm
That people who take SSRIs are often violent surely has nothing to do with the fact that they're taking them for a diagnosed psychological condition.

Quote (DieTryin' @ May 17 2013 03:41pm)
Yes, they're extremely dangerous and they need to stop drugging people, especially kids. It's an endless cycle of drugging people > mass shootings > gun control. Over, and over, and over, and over through the media until you have a bunch of idiots brainwashed enough to believe zomg 30 round magazines must be banned!! Think of the children! It really is quite sad to watch what should be an intelligent species be so easily abused and exploited intellectually :(


And here you are spouting groundless nonsense with not even the smallest inkling of evidence.

We have statistical evidence that SSRIs are effective at treating several psychological conditions and do so with relatively few side effects. You have no evidence that anything else is the case.
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