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Aug 15 2012 04:10pm
Hi,

I'm just here to encourage you to read this book : The Present (with religion) http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-with-religion/

I can't explain it better than the autor so I'll quote the start :

"Newton and Einstein were great scientists and great mystics. Science and religion have different pieces to the puzzle. Until now, no one has united religion and science. People had to choose between tradition and truth. We need both.

What if the Bible and all other religious books are being misinterpreted?

What if the truth is in the Bible and many other religious books, but no one knows what it is? This book uses science, philosophy, religion, and art to reveal the unseen truth. It shows that most of the great prophets, philosophers, and poets are saying the same thing, but almost no one knows what it is.

Jesus is saying something completely different than what Christians think.

Religious books are not just filled with myths and morality tales as many people believe. The truth is in them; they are just being misinterpreted by religions.

The new interpretation will be the best thing that ever happened to religion.
Religions will make sense, and people will be able to understand them for the first time. This will make religions much more popular than they have ever been. Traditional religions will not change much; people will just see the truth in them.

Religion without the truth is like a light bulb without electricity. With the truth, religions will be reborn, and there will be an explosion in spiritual growth. Religions will no longer be based just on blind faith.

Just the truth: The truth about life and death can be explained without any reference to religion, and some people may prefer that, but more than half of the human race is involved in a religion. Thus, to be the ultimate explanation of the truth, it must include religion, all religions. This is the only way to unite us all.

Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein

You do not have to be smart to know the truth, but you do have to be rational, be honest, and know a few things that could not be known until now."

Please read the whole book before you post here, you can't have an opinion if you don't read it...
I'll be happy to answer any question, but most answers are already in this book.


Edit : If you don't like religion, there is a version of this book without religion : http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-universal-truth/

This post was edited by Eti_fr on Aug 15 2012 04:12pm
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Quote (Eti_fr @ Aug 15 2012 06:10pm)
Hi,

I'm just here to encourage you to read this book : The Present (with religion) http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-universal-truth/

I can't explain it better than the autor so I'll quote the start :

"Newton and Einstein were great scientists and great mystics. Science and religion have different pieces to the puzzle. Until now, no one has united religion and science. People had to choose between tradition and truth. We need both.

What if the Bible and all other religious books are being misinterpreted?

What if the truth is in the Bible and many other religious books, but no one knows what it is? This book uses science, philosophy, religion, and art to reveal the unseen truth. It shows that most of the great prophets, philosophers, and poets are saying the same thing, but almost no one knows what it is.

Jesus is saying something completely different than what Christians think.

Religious books are not just filled with myths and morality tales as many people believe. The truth is in them; they are just being misinterpreted by religions.

The new interpretation will be the best thing that ever happened to religion.
Religions will make sense, and people will be able to understand them for the first time. This will make religions much more popular than they have ever been. Traditional religions will not change much; people will just see the truth in them.

Religion without the truth is like a light bulb without electricity. With the truth, religions will be reborn, and there will be an explosion in spiritual growth. Religions will no longer be based just on blind faith.

Just the truth: The truth about life and death can be explained without any reference to religion, and some people may prefer that, but more than half of the human race is involved in a religion. Thus, to be the ultimate explanation of the truth, it must include religion, all religions. This is the only way to unite us all.

Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein

You do not have to be smart to know the truth, but you do have to be rational, be honest, and know a few things that could not be known until now."

Please read the whole book before you post here, you can't have an opinion if you don't read it...
I'll be happy to answer any question, but most answers are already in this book.


...priceless

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Aug 15 2012 04:17pm
It's only 224 pages, I already finished. And it's a terrible book. :(
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Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Aug 15 2012 10:13pm)
...priceless


you actually read all the way down there? was it interesting in between?
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Aug 15 2012 04:21pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Aug 15 2012 06:18pm)
you actually read all the way down there? was it interesting in between?




...did a quick scan ............. saw that he claims I don't know the truth about Jesus and then chuckled when I saw the bolded part....................... ( or should that be " emboldened or embolded " ? , )



...

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Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Aug 15 2012 03:21pm)
...did a quick scan ....... saw that he claims I don't know the truth about Jesus and then chuckled when I saw the bolded part................. ( or should that be " emboldened or embolded " ? , )



...


You can just say the bold part.
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Aug 15 2012 04:23pm
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Aug 15 2012 06:22pm)
You can just say the bold part.





...but the entire post was bold in its assertions which is why I struggle with the correct formation of the word when used online .
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The Bible says: “The gift of God is eternal life.”

Immortality: “It’s impossible to be conscious of being unconscious.”

You are reading this book, so you are conscious (alive). This means you have always been conscious and always will be, because it is not possible for you to be aware of being dead (unconscious). You cannot be aware of not being aware, you cannot be conscious of being unconscious. You can be less conscious (sleep/coma), but not completely unconscious, because time would stand still for you. A billion years could pass, and you would not know it. You cannot be aware of any gaps in life; it is continuous and never ending from your own point of view. You are immortal, because it is impossible for you not to be.

No cognizance is taken of the lapse of time after a person becomes unconscious in death. (Eccl. 9:5; Ps. 146:4)

Have you ever experienced anything other than life? You haven’t, because you cannot experience anything else; anything you experience is life. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, and consciousness cannot be created or destroyed for the same reason. It changes form. You cannot make nothing out of something. If you are conscious of life now, you are something. Your body is just a very temporary mortal container for your immortal consciousness.

The deductive logic above reveals that we are not our bodies. We know our bodies die, and we know consciousness cannot, thus our consciousness (what we are) cannot be our bodies. The Bible calls it our spirit or soul.

You will die physically, but you will be born again; being born happens, or you would not be here now. You were born into this life. It is what we know happens for certain to everyone living. There is no evidence anything else happens.

Why would we think anything else happens or even can happen? People are playing make believe. We are dealing with time and space that never ends. If we were born once, it will happen again; things repeat in nature. The only question is where, when, and what you will be reborn as, and we can know that too.


I don't really follow the logic.
Finite entities can exist on an infinite plane.
There's no reason to conclude with logic alone that entities with a finite duration can't exist inside an infinite timeline.
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Aug 15 2012 04:31pm
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I don't really follow the logic.
Finite entities can exist on an infinite plane.
There's no reason to conclude with logic alone that entities with a finite duration can't exist inside an infinite timeline.


LOL is that quote for real?
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