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Jul 24 2012 09:46am
Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.

Makes more sense when what he was actually talking about is bolded.

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Jul 24 2012 09:50am
I agree, let's have the wealthy pay for the bridges and roads (good thing they already do) and we"ll have the poor pay for their welfare and social expenses.
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Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 24 2012 08:46am)
Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive.  Somebody invested in roads and bridges.  If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.


Nice, subtle critique of our sound-byte culture! The meaning was completely distorted on Murdoch News...
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Jul 24 2012 09:54am
agreed, i've helped several small businessmen build their business from the ground up

in every case, if asked, they did it alone, (although i dont mind), its an ego-thing

it fits the image they want, (but we both know better in all instances)

capital cannot thrive without labor
labor cannot thrive without someones capital formation

no "man is an island" anywhere but alone on an island...
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Quote (WeGotheChronic @ Jul 24 2012 10:51am)
Nice, subtle critique of our sound-byte culture!  The meaning was completely distorted on Murdoch News...


The message is pretty consistent, and he's deliberately pandering to voters by pretending that the wealthy need to pay more because of infrastructure, they dont, it's the social expenses that are getting of control, and the wealthy really didn't succeed because of government paying for healthcare.
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Jul 24 2012 10:02am
Quote (WeGotheChronic @ Jul 24 2012 11:51am)
Nice, subtle critique of our sound-byte culture!  The meaning was completely distorted on Murdoch News...


The sentence "I never said she stole my money" can mean 7 different things depending on where you put the emphasis.

During campaign season, the opposition will place the emphasis wherever it seems most damaging, regardless of the original context.
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Jul 24 2012 10:07am
America had help reaching the moon by the scientist in history. your parents had help raising you by their parents and so forth by the way they were raised...you can go on all day about the help we had to get where we are.
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Jul 24 2012 10:07am
i heard some dumbass in the huffington post tried to claim that what Obama really meant was an appeal to determinism. LOL yea, that's what he meant.
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Jul 24 2012 10:16am
Quote (bogie160 @ Jul 24 2012 08:54am)
The message is pretty consistent, and he's deliberately pandering to voters by pretending that the wealthy need to pay more because of infrastructure, they dont, it's the social expenses that are getting of control, and the wealthy really didn't succeed because of government paying for healthcare.


My point was that the message being espoused by Fox News only had to do with not building your own business. There was no mention of infrastructure when I was watching, just a sense of alarm over Obama being a socialist that wants to seize all businesses or something.
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