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May 23 2011 04:18am
they came to earth in 11000bc yeah? And after god created the world in so many days they got put on the earth? how come is there eividence that dinosaurs were here millions and millions of years before adam and eve were here?
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May 23 2011 07:12am
asking a question thats answer cannot be definite.
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May 23 2011 07:13am
Quote (cletus7seven @ May 23 2011 07:12am)
asking a question thats answer cannot be definite.


in other words,
Dont ask questions that have points that cant be proven by christianity
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May 23 2011 07:17am
Quote (DViolent @ May 23 2011 07:13am)
in other words,
Dont ask questions that have points that cant be proven by christianity


or that cant be proven, hes just starting a debate that cannot be won.
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May 23 2011 07:28am
Quote (ChaosIII @ May 23 2011 08:18pm)
they came to earth in 11000bc yeah? And after god created the world in so many days they got put on the earth?  how come is there eividence that dinosaurs were here millions and millions of years before adam and eve were here?


11,000? o.o anyway
dinosaurs were put on this earth to test our faith!
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May 23 2011 07:41am
Whats wrong with believing in evolution as Gods way of creating the universe? A more interesting debate is how the universe began imo

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11,000? o.o anyway
dinosaurs were put on this earth to test our faith!


+this
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May 23 2011 07:44am
Quote (ChaosIII @ May 23 2011 06:18am)
they came to earth in 11000bc yeah? And after god created the world in so many days they got put on the earth?  how come is there eividence that dinosaurs were here millions and millions of years before adam and eve were here?


Oh, well the science is obviously incorrect.
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May 23 2011 08:23am
There are a number of ways to answer this question.

1) Young Earth
2) The bible (and pretty much all ancient manuscripts), refer to dinosaur like creatures, aka, dragons (Behemoth, Leviathan in the bible). They frequently refer to them from a firsthand perspective. How did all of these cultures simultaneously create the same "fiction"? It wasn't until the 1800s that dinosaurs were "rediscovered", and given the modern name "dinosaur".

One thing to keep in mind is that all dating techniques assume many conditions, including the starting state of the matter being tested, and constants throughout time since that can be measurable. An analogy could be like saying: "John swam 7 laps in the pool, therefore it took him 3:30 because the average time it takes to swim a lap in this pool is 30 seconds". Unfortunately, that assumes many things, namely, the start condition, and how long each lap took, which pool he swam in, etc. If he completed 3 laps the day prior, then finished the last 4 laps a week later, or even did so in different pool(s), you have a huge discrepancy, and the end result is inaccurate. Likewise, someone can't look at you and tell you exactly how old you are, nor can this be measured in any reliable or accurate manner. We only know how old you are because we know when your actual birth date was, assuming it was recorded properly. Some argue that it "gets us in the ballpark", but again, there are many cases where this is not the case. And this doesn't even begin to delve into the method of how these numbers are reached. In order to receive dates from a sample, one of the required pieces of information is the "estimated age of the sample piece". That is to say, they set the baseline to a preconceived estimate before any measurements are actually taken. They then thrown out any high or low anomalous readings that do not correspond to said "estimate". This is circular logic to the extreme.
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May 23 2011 08:29am
Quote (njaguar @ May 23 2011 08:23am)
There are a number of ways to answer this question.

1) Young Earth
2) The bible (and pretty much all ancient manuscripts), refer to dinosaur like creatures, aka, dragons (Behemoth, Leviathan in the bible). They frequently refer to them from a firsthand perspective. How did all of these cultures simultaneously create the same "fiction"? It wasn't until the 1800s that dinosaurs were "rediscovered", and given the modern name "dinosaur".
One thing to keep in mind is that all dating techniques assume many conditions, including the starting state of the matter being tested, and constants throughout time since that can be measurable. An analogy could be like saying: "John swam 7 laps in the pool, therefore it took him 3:30 because the average time it takes to swim a lap in this pool is 30 seconds". Unfortunately, that assumes many things, namely, the start condition, and how long each lap took, which pool he swam in, etc. If he completed 3 laps the day prior, then finished the last 4 laps a week later, or even did so in different pool(s), you have a huge discrepancy, and the end result is inaccurate. Likewise, someone can't look at you and tell you exactly how old you are, nor can this be measured in any reliable or accurate manner. We only know how old you are because we know when your actual birth date was, assuming it was recorded properly. Some argue that it "gets us in the ballpark", but again, there are many cases where this is not the case. And this doesn't even begin to delve into the method of how these numbers are reached. In order to receive dates from a sample, one of the required pieces of information is the "estimated age of the sample piece". That is to say, they set the baseline to a preconceived estimate before any measurements are actually taken. They then thrown out any high or low anomalous readings that do not correspond to said "estimate". This is circular logic to the extreme.


lol @ your time frame.

dinosaurs around when people where? idontthinkso
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May 23 2011 08:31am
Quote (DViolent @ 23 May 2011 09:29)
lol @ your time frame.

dinosaurs around when people where? idontthinkso


Would love to see your proof. It's great that you believe these things to be so, and you have every right to do so. I already outlined one potential flaw, which knowing your background in the PaRD, there is little chance you read (let alone understood) it.

Don't be mad because Christianity can explain these things. I know that really ruffles your feathers.
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