Quote (Melatonina @ Apr 2 2020 02:53am)

Many times more ? maybe 2x more, still makes is 10/20x deadlier than any flu, and much more contagious than flu. and keep in mind it could mutates over the years into something more dangerous.
I still dont know what to think about it, good or bad thing ? I mean less activity is good for environment, then you take into account that less pollution equals less deaths amongst population = even more humans and more activity once it's gone.
Think I just need to go oustide

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Apr 2 2020 01:02am)

According to the numbers, so far the Flu HAS posed more of a threat. An estimated 29,000-59,000 have died from the flu in the US this season (as of mid march). Add to that hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations, and attempting to minimize the impact the Flu has had is flat out stupid.

On the flipside, there have been 5,099 deaths related to COVID19 in the US, out of a couple hundred thousand cases. Also I've noticed they aren't doing much public tracking of age of the dead people, or other underlying health issues in the last month. All data I'm coming across for such statistics are from February, before the virus "officially" hit the US.

COVID19 has become incredibly sensationalized, with very little hard statistical data thrown out. But as far as it goes: More people have been confirmed to have contracted Influenza this flu season, FAR more have been hospitalized, FAR FAR more have had extreme symptoms, and 10x as many have died. And this happens EVERY SINGLE YEAR. This is neither a fast or slow year for the Flu. It's average.

If you want to be afraid of COVID19, be afraid. That's your choice. Attempting to minimize the flu, or the 250,000-400,000 it kills globally EVERY SINGLE YEAR, is just nonsense.

Quote (dro94 @ Apr 2 2020 03:07am)

'So far' is the most retarded shit ever. We know way more are going to die of this than the flu from the modelling in even the most optimistic scenarios and attested to by medical professionals. Why are you lying to yourself?

It's almost like we're at the beginning of a pandemic or something.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Apr 2 2020 05:11am)

I'm confused about why you think I don't understand what's going on? Can you refute a single fact I listed? I'm not telling you this thing is purely harmless, or anything along those lines. But let's address a few more facts, shall we?

1. The virus has traveled the world. It's in every country, on every continent with the exception of Antarctica.
2. There are some 7.5 Billion people between all those countries.
3. While there have been just under a million confirmed cases, only a few million have been tested.
4. Numerous articles and many doctors are claiming that due to the time it takes to test, testing is primarily being focused on those who exhibit not just "cold symptoms" but severe symptoms, especially respiratory.
5. When you're only testing the people you feel pretty sure have something, AND they're the more severe cases, you're likely to score pretty high on the confirmation bias scorecard.
6. Until those with mild or no symptoms are tested at an equal rate to those exhibiting symptoms, it's not knowable how lethal the virus actually is.

It's all rather simple logic mate. Perhaps it's as bad as you say. Perhaps not. For now, based on the facts we have at hand, Flu is worse. That may change, but no matter how many times you tell me "The Sky Is Falling!" I'm not going to take you on your word. :)

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Apr 2 2020 03:30am)

Amount of serious cases in UK is wrong.

Quote (Kayeto @ Apr 2 2020 03:27am)

The most reliable numbers we have right now are South Korea's. They were ahead of the problem, testing early and often. They even tested and isolated known contacts of the infected, meaning that their data includes many asymptomatic carriers.

Their test is even considered to be the best one: http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_international/934862.html

Their health care resources did not get overrun. Their patients had access to the best care available. With all that in mind, let's take a look at their reported data: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-korea/

Even if we assume that all their open cases are going to be recoveries (which is gracious), their mortality rate is still 1.7%. That is 17 times worse than the flu. And it is under optimal conditions of treatment which other countries (especially large ones) will not be able to replicate, not even close.

Quote (fender @ Apr 2 2020 07:27am)

https://i.imgur.com/5A8jeku.mp4

Quote (duffman316 @ Apr 2 2020 08:53am)

So have any of the cultists acknolwedged the fuckup by the trump admin that made america less informed and prepared for this thing? I mean independant of the incompetence around the messaging around this thing.

Didn't realize he undid a bunch of things that would have helped to get ahead of this virus because they were put in place by the black guy before him.