at some point you'll have to (not by law ofc - guess i'll have to specify that from now on - but to not 'look silly') settle on a narrative though.
so today's flavour is personal feelings and embracing the gutter again? fair enough... obviously that's perfectly 'legal', it just contradicts the 'you forced me to do it' angle...

i didnt realize you took my "if you forced me too" one liner so seriously, it was a joke.

if you think im in the gutter again maybe marinate on the fact that we've been in a 10 post back and forth about nazi history and i havent once brought up your grandfather.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jan 15 2020 09:57am

don't you think you're overusing the 'thoughtless comment' / 'offhanded remark' / 'careless one liner' / 'totally just a joke' thingy, to walk back comments, lately?

that said, if you really think the whole 'you're german, so you're a nazi (sympathiser)' is something that insults me, rather than your own intelligence, then i guess you genuinely think that excrements is just a hyper dedicated troll, and not just an incredibly butthurt kid following me around like it's his job...
to me that's a distinction without a difference - both just unintelligent pettiness and mental instability really, so by all means, grandfather away...

coins have two sides, dont you think you've been taking me all too seriously lately? or for that matter, forever? or is it more of a general mechanism you employ to engage people on your own terms? i'd suggest perhaps some lower end place on the spectrum and a diagnosis that you have a hard time understanding if/when others are being sardonic and humorous, but you post a lot of memes that are clearly meant that way. maybe you just think jokes should be in pic format, to avoid having to discern sarcasm in text form. that would make sense from the perspective that english isnt your first language, im sure id have a bear of a time discerning german sarcasm, if i could speak german.

in any case i find Nazi jokes at you are a spectrum also, entirely bereft of their effect on you. if they're hacky and repetitive they're not good, if they're creative they're good. like when i outlined a line about folding to russia and added winter in the northern hemisphere. that wasnt exactly on a silver platter, nor was it something worth retweeting 10k times. really its where it led that im most proud of, because it was nothing but a throwaway line.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jan 15 2020 10:20am

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Tell you what, fender. You find me an American world history textbook that covers this esoteric tidbit about the Battle at Borodino Field (wiki entry also doesn't cover it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_at_Borodino_Field) and I'll lie and tell everyone I Googled it. I'm not saying it's not in a world history textbook, but I'd be super impressed if it was. Later, I might even show you where I learned it, because it's really interesting.

it's no surprise fender (aka heinrich von goebbles) is in denial of reality. the guy blamed the republican party for 'creating the electoral college' so him trying to say something like the various reichs won WWI and WWII isn't too out of his normal character (or lack thereof)

This post was edited by excellence on Jan 15 2020 10:37am

despite your (also completely overused) inevitable condescending remarks about my grasp of the english language, i am rather confident in my understanding of sarcasm, and my ability to distinguish between its use in humour, as opposed to cheap excuses and attempts to deflect blame / responsibility.

as to "nazi jokes", good jokes are good (shocking insight there), but that was entirely not the point. i wasn't talking about jokes, i was talking about the 'gutter'. if you're there making bad and repetitive nazi comments, or just generally engaging in petty behaviour, really doesn't make a difference - so there are no credits for not playing the nazi card in that situation, as it literally only reflects bad on one side...



did you seriously misread 'googling something' for 'digging up your old history textbooks'? because that's the only way your little exercise would 'prove' something.
also, what do you mean by 'wiki entry also doesn't cover it', when the very first line of the whole article is a link to the 1812 battle of borodino?! - all you've done is illustrate how easy it is really is to stumble upon that "esoteric tidbit"...

that said, i read both articles and (re)learned some history as well. i love that kind of stuff...

despite what you may think, my constant references to your english isnt condescending at all. it's earnest. i had a similar streak with Knoppie, and it took a while for him to realize i wasn't making fun but legitimately trying to help his english skills and communicate better with him by understanding his perspective.

in your case specifically, german, it has a streak for being a very non-sarcastic language. especially by comparison to american english. we had a foreign exchange student in my high school from Germany and i learned this first hand.

for some reference, this is from a reddit discussion on german sarcasm, or lack thereof:



but perhaps the swiss influence in you has allowed for a good grasp on sarcasm.

it's funny how upset you got about my comments regarding the american education system, while at the same time not only embracing stereotypes about the german language and sarcasm, but trying to apply them to someone who is obviously very familiar with american and british media and humour...
anecdotal evidence you found on reddit to confirm that bias is not a valid argument here.

again, i can assure you i DO get it, so it's really easy for me to identify when people are using 'you don't get it because you're not a native speaker' as an excuse. don't spin that into some ridiculous claim though, i'm well aware that my english is far from perfect, and that there are definitely things i do NOT get because of it, but that's not one of them, so you will have to come up with something new - that is if you want to maintain that your concern is 'earnest'...

firstly, what are some indicators you use in judging when i'm "upset" exactly? because you tell me when i'm upset with about 10% accuracy overall.

secondly, i didnt use german lack of sarcasm use as an excuse for anything. i simply posited it might play a role here, because again you're not very accurate discerning it, like when people are "upset". i think, on a serious note, that it has nothing to do with your ability to sense sarcasm, but is instead a tactic you use to refuse to give ground. refusing to accept when someone says they were joking is generally bad form in PARD or elsewhere. people should be allowed to joke, you should be allowed to take them seriously, then they are allowed to tell you they were joking, and you should be able to accept it. if instead you constantly try to imply they were serious the whole time it just makes conversations generally less fun. some people are here just for fun, some for only knives out conversations, and most are inbetween. you seem to be far into the knives out side of the spectrum, which is fine, but assuming everyone else is also is just bad communication. its "too serious guy at a dinner party" behavior.

as to the topic of German sarcasm generally, are you saying you think sarcastic humor in German culture is actually just as prevalent as say the UK or USA? obviously germans being entirely unable to sense sarcasm is a stereotype, but stereotypes are also generally based in some truth.