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Aug 5 2019 10:18am
Quote (LA-Leviathan @ Aug 5 2019 09:17am)
No I want your opinions to be seen by as many people as possible in a much better form of communication. PaRD doesn't affect my life in anyway and never will. l o l.


But you wanted people on the left to stop posting here.
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Aug 5 2019 10:20am
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But you wanted people on the left to stop posting here.


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Aug 5 2019 10:58am
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It doesn't even necessarily have to be a ban by the government. There's already largely understood and accepted practices that media companies voluntarily engage in whenever covering stories of high-profile suicides, because the suicide rate spikes significantly after such traditional coverage, and so they change the way they report on it.

The same thing could begin to happen with respect to mass shootings, but media companies don't care enough at the moment to make a change because trauma porn brings in money and the average American wants to play no part in owning responsibility for a solution and instead wants to talk about systems that exist outside of them, like gun control, mental health, etc.


one of the issues would be the funneling effect. as you restrict the number of outlets who are refusing to print the name/picture the outlets that do print them will get more clicks, hand over fist. in reality the media companies know this, and will just continue business as usual for that reason. IMO you need some sort of regulation, and even then you get into the 'problem' of some offshore media outlet still running the face/name that people look up online. in a reality where less people consume news through newspapers and TV it would be increasingly hard to enforce. still it would be nice not to see a full bio of a whacko shooter on ABC nightly news.
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Aug 5 2019 11:22am
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one of the issues would be the funneling effect. as you restrict the number of outlets who are refusing to print the name/picture the outlets that do print them will get more clicks, hand over fist. in reality the media companies know this, and will just continue business as usual for that reason. IMO you need some sort of regulation, and even then you get into the 'problem' of some offshore media outlet still running the face/name that people look up online. in a reality where less people consume news through newspapers and TV it would be increasingly hard to enforce. still it would be nice not to see a full bio of a whacko shooter on ABC nightly news.


I don't disagree with that at all. What I also do believe though is that if we had a major groundswell reaction to media outlets continuing to report as they have, and that if high-profile people actively spoke out against them, that we could turn the tide of media reporting from the ground up.
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Aug 5 2019 11:24am
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I don't disagree with that at all. What I also do believe though is that if we had a major groundswell reaction to media outlets continuing to report as they have, and that if high-profile people actively spoke out against them, that we could turn the tide of media reporting from the ground up.


As long as it's profitable they'll do it. There's 0 integrity in that business anymore.

Only way to make a difference is putting pressure on them financially and legally (see Bollea v. Gawker).
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Aug 5 2019 11:29am
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As long as it's profitable they'll do it. There's 0 integrity in that business anymore.

Only way to make a difference is putting pressure on them financially and legally (see Bollea v. Gawker).


Profit is life.
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Aug 5 2019 11:34am
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I don't disagree with that at all. What I also do believe though is that if we had a major groundswell reaction to media outlets continuing to report as they have, and that if high-profile people actively spoke out against them, that we could turn the tide of media reporting from the ground up.


in my opinion that kind of ground swell would require people to really accept that coverage drive is (the easy part) AND that guns specifically aren't as much to blame (the really hard part). we see this in how 'mental health' has become a bit of a buzzword response to calls for gun control. if i'm a 2a advocate and someone says 'we need bigly gun control legislation now, time to act congress' and i respond 'i want mental health reform' its seen as apologetics and a deflection. i see any calls to not have the shooters face shown having the same hurdle. big time gun control advocates will see this as skirting 'the problem'.
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Aug 6 2019 05:36am
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/05/us/connor-betts-dayton-shooting-profile/index.html

Tumblr warriors are now getting into the fray now. Its been excused and not addressed for so long it will expand.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0wq8hP8gw0


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