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Feb 19 2019 10:42am
Quote (djman72 @ Feb 19 2019 11:26am)
Great point. I still have yet to receive a straight and honest answer as to how the most qualified candidate in history with plenty of resources lost to an orange potato.

Amazing.


I've answered this plenty of times... the voters are idiots. Plain and simple.
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Feb 19 2019 11:12am
Quote (IceMage @ Feb 19 2019 11:42am)
I've answered this plenty of times... the voters are idiots. Plain and simple.


That's a pretty easy cop out answer. Not much substance to "well, they're stupid so......"

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Feb 19 2019 11:13am
Quote (IceMage @ 19 Feb 2019 12:42)
I've answered this plenty of times... the voters are idiots. Plain and simple.

insult anyone who votes thinks or does anything differently than you do. yeah that’ll persuade people to your point of view.

it’s refreshing that the unwarranted self-importance of privileged lefties here never fades no matter how many times they get bamboozled by reality

Quote (IgoSoHard @ 19 Feb 2019 12:20)
& you guys picked the most qualified nominee in history & still lost. Incredible indeed.


Quote (djman72 @ 19 Feb 2019 12:26)
Your shilling is reaching epic heights. I'm proud of your smut.



Great point. I still have yet to receive a straight and honest answer as to how the most qualified candidate in history with plenty of resources lost to an orange potato.

Amazing.

the voters are racist cuz they voted for an orange person and not a white person
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Feb 19 2019 11:15am
Quote (Beowulf @ Feb 19 2019 06:08pm)
https://i.imgur.com/VlSJ3x5.jpg

Pretty incredible Republicans were able to find someone that makes Bush look like an inspiring philosopher and great thinker in less than a decade


ooo, mad about criticism towards washington post?

lets see what fresh material washington post printed with a goal to HEAL america :

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/02/17/i-doubted-jussie-smollett-it-breaks-my-heart-that-i-might-be-right
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If Smollett’s story is found to be untrue, ... the incident would be touted as proof that there is a leftist conspiracy to cast Trump supporters as violent, murderous racists. It would be the very embodiment of “fake news.”

And that reason, more than any other, is why I need this story to be true, despite its ugliness and despite what it would say about the danger of the world I live in. The damage done would be too deep and long-lasting.


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Feb 19 2019 11:17am
Quote (HeLiCaL @ Feb 19 2019 10:15am)
ooo, mad about criticism towards washington post?

lets see what fresh material washington post printed with a goal to HEAL america :

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/02/17/i-doubted-jussie-smollett-it-breaks-my-heart-that-i-might-be-right




don't care
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Feb 19 2019 11:18am
Quote (HeLiCaL @ Feb 19 2019 12:15pm)
ooo, mad about criticism towards washington post?

lets see what fresh material washington post printed with a goal to HEAL america :

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/02/17/i-doubted-jussie-smollett-it-breaks-my-heart-that-i-might-be-right


The Washington Post is just opinion articles at this point, all of it. It should be treated like The Onion or BabylonLee but not funny at all.
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Feb 19 2019 11:27am
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-launches-global-effort-end-criminalization-homosexuality-n973081

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Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality
The administration is responding in part to a reported hanging of a young gay man in Iran, Trump’s top geopolitical foe.

BERLIN — The Trump administration is launching a global campaign to end the criminalization of homosexuality in dozens of nations where it's still illegal to be gay, U.S. officials tell NBC News, a bid aimed in part at denouncing Iran over its human rights record.

U.S. Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell, the highest-profile openly gay person in the Trump administration, is leading the effort, which kicks off Tuesday evening in Berlin. The U.S. embassy is flying in LGBT activists from across Europe for a strategy dinner to plan to push for decriminalization in places that still outlaw homosexuality — mostly concentrated in the Middle East, Africa and the Caribbean.

“It is concerning that, in the 21st century, some 70 countries continue to have laws that criminalize LGBTI status or conduct,” said a U.S. official involved in organizing the event.

Although the decriminalization strategy is still being hashed out, officials say it’s likely to include working with global organizations like the United Nations, the European Union and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, as well as other countries whose laws already allow for gay rights. Other U.S. embassies and diplomatic posts throughout Europe, including the U.S. Mission to the E.U., are involved, as is the State Department’s Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor.

Narrowly focused on criminalization, rather than broader LGBT issues like same-sex marriage, the campaign was conceived partly in response to the recent reported execution by hanging of a young gay man in Iran, the Trump administration’s top geopolitical foe.

Grenell, as Trump’s envoy to Germany, has been an outspoken Iran critic and has aggressively pressed European nations to abandon the 2015 nuclear deal and re-impose sanctions. But while the Trump administration has had some success in pressuring Iran through stepped-up U.S. penalties, efforts to bring the Europeans along have thus far largely fallen flat.

Reframing the conversation on Iran around a human rights issue that enjoys broad support in Europe could help the United States and Europe reach a point of agreement on Iran. Grenell called the hanging “a wake-up call for anyone who supports basic human rights,” in Bild, a leading German newspaper, this month.

“This is not the first time the Iranian regime has put a gay man to death with the usual outrageous claims of prostitution, kidnapping, or even pedophilia. And it sadly won’t be the last time,” Grenell wrote. “Barbaric public executions are all too common in a country where consensual homosexual relationships are criminalized and punishable by flogging and death.”

He added that “politicians, the U.N., democratic governments, diplomats and good people everywhere should speak up — and loudly.”

Yet by using gay rights as a cudgel against Iran, the Trump administration risks exposing close U.S. allies who are also vulnerable on the issue and creating a new tension point with the one region where Trump has managed to strengthen U.S. ties: the Arab world.

In Saudi Arabia, whose monarchy Trump has staunchly defended in the face of human rights allegations, homosexuality can be punishable by death, according to a 2017 worldwide report from the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association (ILGA). The report identified 72 nations that still criminalize homosexuality, including eight where it’s punishable by death.

That list includes the United Arab Emirates, Pakistan and Afghanistan — all U.S. allies — although those countries aren’t known to have implemented the death penalty for same-sex acts. In Egypt, whose leader Trump has effusively praised, homosexual relations aren’t technically illegal but other morality laws are used aggressively to target LGBT people.

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Feb 19 2019 12:07pm
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I'm all for ending the criminalization of homosexuality, but an issue like this shouldnt be used as a political tool against a country (Iran) with which we're having beef for very different reasons (ideology, economy).

And what does Pence say about all of this? Isn't he a lifelong anti-gay crusader? ^_^

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 19 2019 12:07pm
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Feb 19 2019 02:30pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 19 Feb 2019 14:07)
I'm all for ending the criminalization of homosexuality, but an issue like this shouldnt be used as a political tool against a country (Iran) with which we're having beef for very different reasons (ideology, economy).

And what does Pence say about all of this? Isn't he a lifelong anti-gay crusader? ^_^

it's fairly smart strategy wise. how will the lefties and RINOs manage to be against decriminalization of homosexuality everywhere (especially Iran which is filled with minorities) and then claim President Orange Man Bad Drumpf is a homophobic racist? well i mean they're still calling him literally Hitler and simultaneously controlled by Israel so there's that. They'll call him xenophobic too for being against Iran's culture of criminalization of homosexuality
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Feb 19 2019 02:51pm
Quote (excellence @ Feb 19 2019 02:30pm)
it's fairly smart strategy wise. how will the lefties and RINOs manage to be against decriminalization of homosexuality everywhere (especially Iran which is filled with minorities) and then claim President Orange Man Bad Drumpf is a homophobic racist? well i mean they're still calling him literally Hitler and simultaneously controlled by Israel so there's that. They'll call him xenophobic too for being against Iran's culture of criminalization of homosexuality


I think its more deft maneuvering. It pits europe against iran, it drives a wedge into liberals, helps immunize him from identity politics bashing, and all it takes to maintain is to enforce this decree unevenly and just give our allies a pass
The fact is, whatever weaponized morality of the evangelical republicans of yesteryear once existed, it holds no sway no more. The modern republicans are overwhelming pro-gay and those that aren't either just ignore it and get on board or are die-hard never-trumpers already anyway.
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