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May 22 2018 12:54pm
I think Kim is a smart guy who knows how to control, manipulate and surpress people, whole nations or even the whole world.

This post was edited by Wingman93 on May 22 2018 12:54pm
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May 22 2018 01:11pm
I'd estimate an IQ of around 120-125
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May 22 2018 01:14pm
Quote (fender @ May 22 2018 11:22am)
i think he is crazy.

any stable genius and master negotiator would be able to EASILY make a deal that will completely denuclearise the korean peninsula - a significantly better deal than the one with iran, which just put a complete stop to their nuclear weapons program...


You mean like Libya? Kim is smarter than that. He is not going to give up his nukes, and the United States isn't going to remove their military from China's back door.
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May 22 2018 01:14pm
Quote (Wingman93 @ May 22 2018 02:10pm)
lmk your opinions.

i think hes a genius. every genius is a bit crazy :D


He is very intelligent and knows what he is doing. Which is good for us because he wont nuke us unless he is forced to.
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May 22 2018 01:19pm
I've talked to a couple people about how nuclear arms are a logical end goal for regimes like Iran and NK.

People tend to underestimate the position a nation is put in when they have nuclear arms. They essentially become impossible to be invaded, and very unlikely to engage in traditional warfare with another nation armed with nuclear weapons.

Even if we are 98% sure Iron Dome or whatever system we have in place can shoot down all the missiles, that 2% can still wipe out one or more cities, and that's not a risk we can take on an invasion if they decide to let nukes fly in retaliation.

It effectively secures their position in the world and all change must then come from within, or covertly from outside.


Anyway I just had a lot of people recently tell me "If they get nukes we'll invade! So they should stop!" not understanding that invasion becomes the absolute last resort against a nuclear nation.
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May 22 2018 01:28pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ May 22 2018 09:14pm)
He is very intelligent and knows what he is doing. Which is good for us because he wont nuke us unless he is forced to.


Intelligent doesn't mean nice.

Was Hitler mentally retarded?
No.

Did the Jews force Hitler to become a fascist, responsible for mass murder?
No.

Please, pay attention to what you say.

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May 22 2018 01:33pm
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Quote (Chevaucheur @ May 22 2018 01:28pm)
Intelligent doesn't mean nice.

Was Hitler mentally retarded?
No.

Did the Jews force Hitler to become a fascist, responsible for mass murder?
No.

Please, pay attention to what you say.


Please learn your English, because he said Kim is intelligent. Not that he's stupid.
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May 22 2018 01:44pm
The Libya model guys! it's every dictator's dream to be beaten, shot, sodomised with a knife and dragged through the streets begging for mercy.
How could Kim turn it down?

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Quote (Scaly @ May 22 2018 01:44pm)
The Libya model guys! it's every dictator's dream to be beaten, shot, sodomised with a knife and dragged through the streets begging for mercy.
How could Kim turn it down?


i'm confused which argument you're supporting with this post.
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