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May 15 2018 10:19am
Quote (BardOfXiix @ May 15 2018 07:19am)
Much freer than being put to death, which was happening in the Roman Empire.


It's almost like the specific religion doesn't matter because any religion can be molded to have any message you want.
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Israel has the power since all this time [70 years !] to bring peace, but didnt and spread violence instead.
Exactly like i said: you are supporting lands stealing and appartheid, your new values.


What land have we stole? We didnt expand since 1967 we even gave back Gaza and the sinai peninsula an area bigger then Israel itself.

Boom your entire theory just flew of the window
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May 15 2018 10:25am
Quote (inkanddagger @ May 15 2018 05:46am)
When Messiah arrives, he will lay waste to false Israel.


The most important rules of Judaism are the Ten Commandments.
And the existence of Israel does not violate any of these 10 rules.

So you should not say that you want to see Israel disappear, because it's very marginal to the Jewish religion.



Moses is the most important person of Judaism.
This is obvious to the vast majority of Jews.
And you should not despise the rules of Moses.

The existence of Israel does not violate any of Moses' rules, so Israel has the right to exist.
It's that simple
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This post was edited by Chevaucheur on May 15 2018 10:28am
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May 15 2018 10:30am
Quote (BardOfXiix @ May 15 2018 08:19am)
Much freer than being put to death, which was happening in the Roman Empire.


Rome put Jesus to death based on a violation of:

[ ] Jewish law
[ ] Roman law

Fact is that the Roman Empire was quite tolerant of other cultures and religions up until the official adoption of Christianity. Now, it's totally fair to blame them for persecution after the conversion of Constantine on his death bed, but the history of Rome is long and only about a quarter of its history was under Christianity.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 15 2018 09:15am)
Israel has the power since all this time [70 years !] to bring peace, but didnt and spread violence instead.
Exactly like i said: you are supporting lands stealing and appartheid, your new values.


What? 70 years ago, the only power Israel had to "bring peace" was to surrender and die. 20 years later, it was pretty much the same.
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May 15 2018 10:38am
Quote (inkanddagger @ May 15 2018 05:46am)
When Messiah arrives, he will lay waste to false Israel.


In Judaism there are only 10 commandments.
Jews must obey 10 commandments, and only 10 commandments.

So do not try to create an 11th commandment.
You are not a prophet
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May 15 2018 10:41am
Quote (Many_Names @ May 15 2018 12:19pm)
What land have we stole? We didnt expand since 1967 we even gave back Gaza and the sinai peninsula an area bigger then Israel itself.

Boom your entire theory just flew of the window


Still mad cuz they got hella stomped in the six day war that they started
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May 15 2018 10:44am
Quote (Santara @ May 15 2018 09:30am)
Rome put Jesus to death based on a violation of:

[ ] Jewish law
[ ] Roman law

Fact is that the Roman Empire was quite tolerant of other cultures and religions up until the official adoption of Christianity. Now, it's totally fair to blame them for persecution after the conversion of Constantine on his death bed, but the history of Rome is long and only about a quarter of its history was under Christianity.



What? 70 years ago, the only power Israel had to "bring peace" was to surrender and die. 20 years later, it was pretty much the same.


I mean, I don't really have a comment for this since you literally finished my point for me. The Arabic nations were historically far more accepting of other religions, including the Jews, than Western nations have been. In the grand scheme of things, the Arabs have been tolerant for hundreds and hundreds of years, only becoming intolerant for the minority of their existence.

And I wasn't even considering Jesus when I was thinking about Roman persecution, although in hindsight that should've been the obvious go-to.
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Quote (Many_Names @ 15 May 2018 17:19)
What land have we stole? We didnt expand since 1967 we even gave back Gaza and the sinai peninsula an area bigger then Israel itself.
Boom your entire theory just flew of the window


hmm ?

stealing lands pieces by pieces is probably something normal for people like you



This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on May 15 2018 10:45am
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 15 2018 06:44pm)
hmm ?

stealing lands pieces by pieces is probably something normal for people like you

https://www.catholicsforisrael.com/images/stories/palestine_map.gif


Your card is false because it does not take Golan territory into account.
Go back study.
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May 15 2018 10:53am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 15 2018 06:44pm)
hmm ?

stealing lands pieces by pieces is probably something normal for people like you

https://www.catholicsforisrael.com/images/stories/palestine_map.gif


Your card is rigged.
Your card is cheated.
Your card is fake.



We are talking about Israel, and you are showing a map of Palestine.
You are a cheater
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This post was edited by Chevaucheur on May 15 2018 10:54am
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