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Apr 27 2018 06:09pm
Quote (Ghot @ Apr 27 2018 07:47pm)
I'm not really. I'm more pro-president.

Take Obama for instance. I hated just about everything he did, but I wouldn't say anything against him while he was in office.
If a country won't stand behind it's leader, while they are in office, then you have problems.

/e Maybe it was the 7 years I spent in the military, I dunno. But I'm patriotic or at least I try to be.



Go... 'murica!


If you can't speak against something you're weak.

It's for the party Winston.

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Apr 27 2018 06:09pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 27 2018 04:03pm)
Standing behind somebody in a position of authority just because they are in a position of authority is an awful thing.



This!!! If you feel they are doing legit harm or whatnot you have to speak up or vote differently. I love trump but if doesn’t do what he campaigned for I will mean tweet his ass real quick 😂. For the most part though Trump is already doing better than any other president in my life time.

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Apr 27 2018 06:11pm
Quote (ben_davis @ 27 Apr 2018 20:09)
This!!! If you feel they are doing legit harm or whatnot you have to speak up or vote differently. I love trump but if doesn’t do what he campaigned I will mean tweet his ass real quick 😂. For the most part though Trump is already doing better than any other president in my life time.

lmao
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Apr 27 2018 06:16pm
Quote (ben_davis @ Apr 27 2018 06:09pm)
This!!! If you feel they are doing legit harm or whatnot you have to speak up or vote differently. I love trump but if doesn’t do what he campaigned for I will mean tweet his ass real quick 😂. For the most part though Trump is already doing better than any other president in my life time.


He's doing far worse than even his predecessor.

You have very poor standards.
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Apr 27 2018 06:20pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 27 2018 04:16pm)
He's doing far worse than even his predecessor.

You have very poor standards.



What is worse sir? You are in black power right?? So do you not agree with black people working it’s the lowest unemployment rate ever for black peppercorns? I mean so far the black community is doing better. Trump wants to fix gang violence with jobs. Obama ignored it because it didn’t stuff his pockets... remember people you can’t get rich in politics unless you are corrupted. The Donald lost a billion dollars becoming president, Hillary and Obama has gotten rich from being in office.

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Apr 27 2018 06:25pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 27 2018 04:16pm)
He's doing far worse than even his predecessor.

You have very poor standards.


https://wealthygorilla.com/barack-obama-net-worth/

Worth a couple 100k before president 40 mil now and Hillary is even worse I’m going To have look her shit up.
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Apr 27 2018 06:40pm
Quote (ben_davis @ Apr 27 2018 06:20pm)
What is worse sir? You are in black power right?? So do you not agree with black people working it’s the lowest unemployment rate ever for black peppercorns? I mean so far the black community is doing better. Trump wants to fix gang violence with jobs. Obama ignored it because it didn’t stuff his pockets... remember people you can’t get rich in politics unless you are corrupted. The Donald lost a billion dollars becoming president, Hillary and Obama has gotten rich from being in office.


Trump has had pretty much nothing to do with the current unemployment rate.

He inherited a great economy from Obama and has done very little to hinder or help it.

Meanwhile, Obama took an economic disaster and turned it into the current economy that Trump inherited.
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Apr 27 2018 06:50pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 27 2018 08:40pm)
Trump has had pretty much nothing to do with the current unemployment rate.

He inherited a great economy from Obama and has done very little to hinder or help it.

Meanwhile, Obama took an economic disaster and turned it into the current economy that Trump inherited.


the president is not single-handedly or otherwise responsible for the entire economy and its success.
A recovery from the recession was virtually inevitable. Meanwhile Obama advocated a number of bad policies and increased spending but was partly stopped by republican opposition and gridlock.
The actual recovery was extremely sluggish and the state of the economy wasn't "great" by any means when trump took office.
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Apr 27 2018 06:59pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Apr 27 2018 08:03pm)
The problems exist whether you choose to uncritically support the government or not.
Giving presidents a free pass on terrible policies and actions is not a solution.

"Why is patriotism thought to be blind loyalty to the government and the politicians who run it, rather than loyalty to the principles of liberty and support for the people? Real patriotism is a willingness to challenge the government when it’s wrong." - Ron Paul




Ron Paul is right. Problem is that there is a method for "challenging the government", that seems to be all but forgotten these days. That method is called voting, That's it, there's no mystery to it.

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Apr 27 2018 07:03pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Apr 27 2018 04:50pm)
the president is not single-handedly or otherwise responsible for the entire economy and its success.
A recovery from the recession was virtually inevitable. Meanwhile Obama advocated a number of bad policies and increased spending but was partly stopped by republican opposition and gridlock.
The actual recovery was extremely sluggish and the state of the economy wasn't "great" by any means when trump took office.



This!!! Also great leadership from the top trickles down fellas.
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