No idea what you mean.

no, i'm merely illustrating that it is possible to know better than some ppl, regardless of their own convictions, based on facts and common sense - challenging your simplistic "evil arrogant leftists just want to tell ppl what to do" talking point...

The popular media runs stupid skits calling Puerto Rico "Trump's Katrina" for 18 hours a day yet you still have the nerve to say that they produce quality reporting.

but thats my point: when it comes to politics, people will never agree on the same facts, they will never agree on what would be the common sense answer to an issue.
political preferences are inherently subjective.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 30 2017 03:48pm

thats what fender can not accept, there are many issues where there is no right or wrong

its another story of course if you are obsessed with feeling morally superior to others

Depends on the issue.

Issues like abortion will always have their detractors, but we can reach like 99% consensus on some very basic things, like no slavery, with proper exposure to the group of people they're seeking to enslave.

it is not "subjective" which candidate is anti abortion and even suggested punishment for women for having one. it is not "subjective" which candidate ended the gender wage gap data collection. it is not subjective which candidate has an almost endless list of misogynist comments and actions: attacking them for their looks; calling them dogs and pigs; making immature remarks about facelifts, bleeding from places, and pussygrabbing; bragging about walking into underage girls' dressing rooms during the beauty pageants he hosts (!); his creepy comments about his own daughter...

yes, you can have a different opinion on abortion, wanting to have actual information about gender inequality, and if all those women "deserved" those comments or not (again, just like on vaccinations) - but it's not debatable which candidate has an objectively better track record and had the better platform when it comes to women's rights...

Not all women are pro abortion.
Not all women are 1 issue voters.
Not all women believe in the wage gap idiocy.
Not all women buy into your hysteria, spin and disgusting portrayal of his relationship with his daughter.
Not all women care if he insulted some other women or if he made a remark that makes you clutch your pearls.

Not all women are eager to overlook the terrible policies and actions of hillary clinton just because she is a woman, even if they disagree with trump or a third party on some issues.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Sep 30 2017 05:12pm

you don't have to be in favour of abortions to realise that having a CHOICE is the side that includes ALL women, no matter what their stance is - while the anti-choice side wants to make it incredibly difficult or even punish women for having an abortion.

you don't have to "believe" in a wage gap to support a program that COLLECTS DATA to investigate it. the ignorant people on both sides (the ones who are 100% convinced there is systemic discrimination, and the morons who claim it's just "idiocy") should be interested in actual facts on the issue - it speaks volumes that trump (and his cultists) aren't even interested in learning the facts, reminds me a lot of his climate change stance...

you don't have to be one of the hundreds of women he directly insulted to recognise a pattern in his behaviour and realise he's a misogynist...