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Nov 30 2009 08:45am
non-retarded people are the same. We all want to do something, just that we don't know what
basically what makes u tick

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Quote (Mezen @ Nov 30 2009 08:45am)
non-retarded people are the same. We all want to do something, just that we don't know what
basically what makes u tick


I never have any idea what you are talking about, but I absolutely love it.
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Nov 30 2009 10:25am
Quote (datajunky @ Nov 30 2009 03:02am)
"Fractal time"
I've always liked Greg Braden's work. I'll be buying this book as soon as I'm done the rest of my list.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1401920640/ctoc/ctoc

He was starring on Coast to Coast AM radio, which you can listen to here:
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2009/11/29

[B][/B]


Bro, come on.
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Nov 30 2009 10:31am
Quote (Neogod2078 @ Nov 30 2009 05:24am)
Yeah dude, the 2012 thing may be the next Y2K crap...All that will happen for sure on 2012 is the next solar polar shift.


Applied to the Timewave Zero, Y2k had no increase in novelty whereas the Dec. 2012 date shows increase in novelty spiking towards infinity. Just a thought on that.

Assumptions about 2012 are just that, assumptions. What we can speculate at this time, however, is that a formula for a fractal time does in fact exist. Within this graph (Timewave Zero) you can visually see spikes in terms of chaos or novelty which occur at specific points in history. There have already been many of these spikes during certain specific events in history such as major wars, great discoveries, etc. I personally believe that the existence of fractals in the first place is an astounding observation made by mankind. Since a fractal is considered to be a self-similar form, I would propose the idea that the mere existence of such a form would suggest that it is apparent in everything around us to a degree. Because of the fact that a fractal is perceived to be infinite, in essence, each fractal is part of a giant universal fractal which in turn breaks down into an algorithm. When applied, this algorithm should be able to see the underlying dynamics of chaos or energy that is in constant motion within this reality. It's almost like a blueprint when set in motion.

Anyway, nobody knows right now but I believe that following this train of thought may open up possibilities for mankind that we never imagined were possible. At least in the end it's all very interesting. I'll have to check this book out for sure.

If anybody is interested, I have a copy of what I believe is the Timewave Zero graph/program. You just need to understand the math behind it to input information to use it successfully, unfortunately math was never my strong point. Maybe somebody could use it effectively? I think it'd be very interesting to see it in action.
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Nov 30 2009 10:38am
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Applied to the Timewave Zero, Y2k had no increase in novelty whereas the Dec. 2012 date shows increase in novelty spiking towards infinity.  Just a thought on that.

Assumptions about 2012 are just that, assumptions.  What we can speculate at this time, however, is that a formula for a fractal time does in fact exist.  Within this graph (Timewave Zero) you can visually see spikes in terms of chaos or novelty which occur at specific points in history.  There have already been many of these spikes during certain specific events in history such as major wars, great discoveries, etc.  I personally believe that the existence of fractals in the first place is an astounding observation made by mankind.  Since a fractal is considered to be a self-similar form, I would propose the idea that the mere existence of such a form would suggest that it is apparent in everything around us to a degree.  Because of the fact that a fractal is perceived to be infinite, in essence, each fractal is part of a giant universal fractal which in turn breaks down into an algorithm.  When applied, this algorithm should be able to see the underlying dynamics of chaos or energy that is in constant motion within this reality.  It's almost like a blueprint when set in motion. 

Anyway, nobody knows right now but I believe that following this train of thought may open up possibilities for mankind that we never imagined were possible.  At least in the end it's all very interesting.  I'll have to check this book out for sure.

If anybody is interested, I have a copy of what I believe is the Timewave Zero graph/program.  You just need to understand the math behind it to input information to use it successfully, unfortunately math was never my strong point.  Maybe somebody could use it effectively?  I think it'd be very interesting to see it in action.


Pick me.
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Never mind,I found it.

This post was edited by datajunky on Nov 30 2009 10:42am
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Nov 30 2009 10:44am
Quote (datajunky @ Nov 30 2009 11:38am)
Pick me.
<3


Haha, sure thing man. Do you have a reliable way to receive file transfers? I'm not sure of the file size, I'm not at the house right now but when I get back (should be within the next 2 hours or so) I will grab it off my external hard drive. It's not much really, just an application with input areas and a space for the graph to appear if I remember correctly. To be honest, I have no clue how to use it, most of my knowledge about it from listening to Terence McKenna (who helped in it's creation) explain it. I can PM you if you want, just let me know how you'd like to receive it ideally.

Edit: Haha, just saw your edit. Let me know how it goes.

This post was edited by HERETICtheory on Nov 30 2009 10:44am
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Haha, sure thing man.  Do you have a reliable way to receive file transfers?  I'm not sure of the file size, I'm not at the house right now but when I get back (should be within the next 2 hours or so) I will grab it off my external hard drive.  It's not much really, just an application with input areas and a space for the graph to appear if I remember correctly.  To be honest, I have no clue how to use it, most of my knowledge about it from listening to Terence McKenna (who helped in it's creation) explain it.  I can PM you if you want, just let me know how you'd like to receive it ideally.

Edit: Haha, just saw your edit.  Let me know how it goes.


Yeah, I'll move this part of the discussion to a PM :)

Fractals are amazing. Too bad there are so many people here not willing to examine it further.
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Uhh the big bang is in the wrong spot. :)

You also forgot to mention all this crap is based on the "I Ching". :)

Quote (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon)

McKenna expressed "novelty" in a computer program, which purportedly produces a waveform known as timewave zero or the timewave. Based on McKenna's interpretation of the King Wen sequence of the I Ching,[37] the graph appears to show great periods of novelty corresponding with major shifts in humanity's biological and cultural evolution. He believed the events of any given time are recursively related to the events of other times, and chose the atomic bombing of Hiroshima as the basis for calculating his end date in November 2012. When he later discovered this date's proximity to the end of the 13th b'ak'tun on the Maya calendar, he revised his hypothesis so that the two dates matched.


I can't even tell if you are serious with this belief or just trolling this time? If you're trolling, nice job, ya got me!
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Nov 30 2009 11:07am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Nov 30 2009 09:36am)
When the moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars

This is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius
The Age of Aquarius
Aquarius! Aquarius!

- from the song  :wacko:


I just took that song off my iPod, it gets aggravating.
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Nov 30 2009 12:56pm
Quote (general_patton @ Nov 30 2009 01:07am)
I used to be obsessed with chaos theory and fractals.

This reads to be a little more than post modern astrology, man. Inherent unpredictability is something of a driving feature in chaotic systems.

You should seriously check out anything with extensive references to Feigenbaum.


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