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Jul 5 2012 10:16pm
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Fascism is a revolutionary ideology, how exactly is it "conservative"? What does that even mean in context of the graph?


You're so cute sometimes with your little pre-packaged arguments.
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Jul 5 2012 10:21pm
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Fascism is a revolutionary ideology, how exactly is it "conservative"? What does that even mean in context of the graph?


To be honest I don't know. I don't like debating terms that have different meanings to different people in different parts of the world.

Maybe somebody could suggest some more objectively 'correct' labels?
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Jul 5 2012 10:22pm
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To be honest I don't know. I don't like debating terms that have different meanings to different people in different parts of the world.

Maybe somebody could suggest some more objectively 'correct' labels?


On the far left, it should say "Freedom hating hippies" and on the far right, it should say "MERKA" with a big ass eagle eating a cheeseburger made out of ground terrorist.
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Jul 5 2012 10:26pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Jul 5 2012 11:16pm)
You're so cute sometimes with your little pre-packaged arguments.


I think it's pretty clear that conservatism and fascism are not the same thing, hell, even the wiki admits that fascism is typically seen as an anti-liberal, anti-conservative movement. If you want to define it as right-wing, and then define right-wing such that it fits, ok, although I still have heavy reservations. But adding the subtext "conservative" is outright misleading.
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Jul 5 2012 11:12pm
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On the far left, it should say "Freedom hating hippies" and on the far right, it should say "MERKA" with a big ass eagle eating a cheeseburger made out of ground terrorist.


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Quote (Voyaging @ Jul 4 2012 12:27pm)
While they obviously have an excessive liberal bias, I've always thought the program was pretty good. I never watch it, but it's high quality.


For a youtube channel, yeah they have a professional quality to their videos. It's just when broken down, it's usually just some people ranting over something some conservatives said. Looking at it from that perspective, it's no different than some random wall of text posted in PaRD by GodlessMulti#10223. Not to mention, I don't trust them to get their facts straight.

For instance, they ran a story on a billboard that read "The most unsafe place for a black baby is in its mother's stomach." TYT immediately said that it was racist and being proposed by right-wing conservatives in an effort to take a cheap shot at black people. The billboard was actually put on display by a black community that wanted to bring awareness to fellow blacks over the disproportionate number of young black women who get abortions. TYT just assumed it was put up by a white person.
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Jul 6 2012 12:42am
Quote (CLiXKoNNeKT @ Jul 6 2012 12:08am)
Are you saying that Progressive and Conservative are unequivalent or that Libertarian and Authoritarian are?

Or that Libertarian/Authoritarian are not synonymous with Progressive/Conservative?


this. not synonymous at all...

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