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May 24 2012 12:24am
Quote (PixileDust @ May 24 2012 01:56am)
tautology is using two different ideas and pretending that they are the same, and so they equal each other. Thats not what I have done here.


A purpose is something that inspires one to take action. The purpose or meaning does not exist in atheism, considering any purpose or meaning can never lead to any sustainable end, considering individual death and eventual species extinction, with no hope of escaping entropy, of unlimited energy, nor of afterlife.


That is not at all what a tautology is.
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May 24 2012 12:44am
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That is not at all what a tautology is.


Perhaps--if you want to include witticism--you could say that their posts are tautological and the inference they've made is wrong.

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May 24 2012 01:02am
Quote (PixileDust @ May 24 2012 12:56am)
tautology is using two different ideas and pretending that they are the same, and so they equal each other. Thats not what I have done here.


A purpose is something that inspires one to take action. The purpose or meaning does not exist in atheism, considering any purpose or meaning can never lead to any sustainable end, considering individual death and eventual species extinction, with no hope of escaping entropy, of unlimited energy, nor of afterlife.


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May 24 2012 09:42am
Quote (PixileDust @ 23 May 2012 23:56)
tautology is using two different ideas and pretending that they are the same, and so they equal each other. Thats not what I have done here.


A purpose is something that inspires one to take action. The purpose or meaning does not exist in atheism, considering any purpose or meaning can never lead to any sustainable end, considering individual death and eventual species extinction, with no hope of escaping entropy, of unlimited energy, nor of afterlife.


I'll give you another example:




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Gay marriage argument in a gif right there.


It's a jpg.

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May 24 2012 09:45am
Quote (Voyaging @ May 24 2012 01:24am)
That is not at all what a tautology is.


Isn't tautology just rhetoric anyway?

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I'll give you another example:

http://www.weebly.com/uploads/6/0/4/1/6041537/4764167.jpg


Gay marriage argument in a gif right there.
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May 25 2012 08:47am
Quote (PixileDust @ May 23 2012 10:09pm)
Having a serious, important, or useful quality or purpose.

In atheism there is no importance, purpose, or seriousness, considering all we do as humans will eventually be gone. Even if we left earth, all the resources in the entire universe will eventually be gone. Once everything is gone, or, and most likely, sooner than than that, we will all die. So what point is it to leave a cultural mark, raise children, or even advocate advancement, considering it will mean nothing in 10,000 years. Thats why I think atheism is worse for society than an agnostic mind set. Its similar to when you get a depressed philosophy major, they aren't very optimistic.


it looks like you've come across new words you clearly don't understand and are attempting to use them as part of an argument that makes you look painfully ignorant

do you even read?

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Quote (Skinned @ May 24 2012 08:45am)
Isn't tautology just rhetoric anyway?



Gay marriage argument in a gif right there.


too bad that's the only "publicized" argument. There are other problems which are rarely mentioned, except by the more esteemed order.
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Quote (PixileDust @ May 23 2012 04:09pm)
Having a serious, important, or useful quality or purpose.

In atheism there is no importance, purpose, or seriousness, considering all we do as humans will eventually be gone. Even if we left earth, all the resources in the entire universe will eventually be gone. Once everything is gone, or, and most likely, sooner than than that, we will all die. So what point is it to leave a cultural mark, raise children, or even advocate advancement, considering it will mean nothing in 10,000 years. Thats why I think atheism is worse for society than an agnostic mind set. Its similar to when you get a depressed philosophy major, they aren't very optimistic.


That sounds hypocritical. In Christianity, eventually you will leave this earth too. In fact, Calvinists suppose that you're either destined for ascension or you're not, and your actions in this life, ultimately, are meaningless. I'd argue that because Atheists suppose that once you leave this earth, nothing else is waiting for you, they hold the earth in high reverence. You have to cherish the life you've been given because when it's gone, it's gone.
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Quote (PixileDust @ May 21 2012 12:47am)
Atheism embraces pointlessness, ethics are meaningless if the entire world is pointless. Saving the earth from "global warming" would be pointless if the world is meaningless. Staying faithful to a spouse and/or doing anything to help society as a whole is pointless, meaningless because it will all be gone anyways right? Especially if no one is going to reward you for it. What is the point of being remembered for any time at all when you will eventually be forgotten. Atheism is more harmful than religion. In fact religion is helpful to society.


from how i see it.. atheism says this "we have one life" now an atheist can say "use it to make it better" or "enjoy it while you can" or they can say "it doesnt matter anyway"... its all in the person.. are you an optimist or a pessimist?
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