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Jun 21 2012 08:15am
Quote (poulgaragr @ 21 Jun 2012 09:14)
Yet you have not produced a single argument to refute at least a single word I said :rofl:

And YES(!), if the YOUTUBE VIDEO has evidence which can be CONFIRMED< then it is 100% valid.

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I don't watch stupid YouTube videos, sorry. I like my information textual.

But I can definitely refute that the quote in your sig actually says what you're clearly trying to make it say, and even fooled one of our stupider members into thinking that it said. It's a pathetic attempt at a smear job, and it simply makes it obvious how pathetically thin your arguments are if you have to resort to that kind of lie.
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Jun 21 2012 08:20am
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I don't watch stupid YouTube videos, sorry.  I like my information textual.

But I can definitely refute that the quote in your sig actually says what you're clearly trying to make it say, and even fooled one of our stupider members into thinking that it said.  It's a pathetic attempt at a smear job, and it simply makes it obvious how pathetically thin your arguments are if you have to resort to that kind of lie.


STILL haven't produced a SINGLE refutation to anything I said from the beginning of this topic. As I CLEARLY show, the Bible is NOT (as a whole, of course) the word of Almighty God. I am willing to accept that SOME things were preserved in it, such as pure monotheism, doing good to neighbours etc, BUT the rest is BS!
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Jun 21 2012 08:34am
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STILL haven't produced a SINGLE refutation to anything I said from the beginning of this topic. As I CLEARLY show, the Bible is NOT (as a whole, of course) the word of Almighty God. I am willing to accept that SOME things were preserved in it, such as pure monotheism, doing good to neighbours etc, BUT the rest is BS!


Yeah, and I don't give a shit about that argument.

Keep dodging the fact that your sig is a bald-faced attempt to lie by making it look like dialogue from a story that Jesus was telling is the same as words from his actual mouth. A terrible lie. But I'm not worried. Allah will handle that for me, eventually.
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Jun 21 2012 08:34am
Bible isn't God's word because God doesn't speak English.
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Jun 21 2012 08:59am
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Yeah, and I don't give a shit about that argument.

Keep dodging the fact that your sig is a bald-faced attempt to lie by making it look like dialogue from a story that Jesus was telling is the same as words from his actual mouth.  A terrible lie.  But I'm not worried.  Allah will handle that for me, eventually.


My signature was specially selected to make people THINK about what the Bible teaches. Jesus (the fake one, mind you) was teaching a parable, and he ended the parable by saying this. But if that is annoying you so much (which, obviously, it is), then what say thee about the following quotes:

Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple. / Luke 14:25-26

And this:

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law" / Matthew 10:34-35

And this KILLER verse:

“I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!" / Luke 12:49

uh...maybe they are "quoted out of context"? :rofl:

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Jun 21 2012 09:01am
Nope, sorry. That's just a bunch of clouds and smoke that you're using to justify the lies that you put in your sig.

That's neither taqiyya nor kitman. It's just a bald-faced lie, and Allah will have plenty to say about it.
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Quote (poulgaragr @ Jun 21 2012 10:59am)
My signature was specially selected to make people THINK about what the Bible teaches. Jesus (the fake one, mind you) was teaching a parable, and he ended the parable by saying this. But if that is annoying you so much (which, obviously, it is), then what say thee about the following quotes:

Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple. / Luke 14:25-26

And this:

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law" / Matthew 10:34-35

And this KILLER verse:

“I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!" / Luke 12:49

uh...maybe they are "quoted out of context"? :rofl:

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You declare you owned him in your own post.
Usually a sign of badness.
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Nope, sorry.  That's just a bunch of clouds and smoke that you're using to justify the lies that you put in your sig. 

That's neither taqiyya nor kitman.  It's just a bald-faced lie, and Allah will have plenty to say about it.


As I previously mentioned (but you are too brain-washed into noticing, apparently), I don't believe that the whole Bible is the word of God. On the contrary, I strongly believe that MOST of it is pure BS, written by the enemies of God and His pure monotheistic religion: Islam

As I CLEARLY say in my profile, I am a Muslim, which means I abide by the Qur'an and Strong Sunna (sound Hadiths, not weak ones).

You, my friend, have FAILED to bring a single argument to refute a single word I said; all you did was throw your dogmatic nonsense here and there.

You see, that's the problem the non-Muslim (a.k.a. a person who follows conjectures, falsehood, etc.): When cornered with the truth, you lash out (like a scared cat that has nowhere to go) with pure BS!

I have proven my words with SOLID arguments, yet YOU?

(better if I don't comment :rofl:)
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Jun 21 2012 09:24am
Quote (poulgaragr @ Jun 21 2012 09:59am)
My signature was specially selected to make people THINK about what the Bible teaches. Jesus (the fake one, mind you) was teaching a parable, and he ended the parable by saying this. But if that is annoying you so much (which, obviously, it is), then what say thee about the following quotes:

Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple. / Luke 14:25-26

And this:

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law" / Matthew 10:34-35

And this KILLER verse:

“I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!" / Luke 12:49

uh...maybe they are "quoted out of context"? :rofl:

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So the parable of "hating" your mother and father is a clear reference to the sort of dedication required to follow the Lord. Unless you literally "hate" your father and mother as compared to your love for the Lord, you cannot follow him. Wordly relations must be entirely second to your relationship with God. This is a pretty common and consistent example of Biblical hyperbole, of which Jesus was fond.

I suppose you also believe that Jesus is speaking about a literal sword, but that's absurd, especially when he criticizes Peter for attempting to defend him (with a sword) as he was being arrested. His message is the sword, and it's that message that he has come to deliver to the world, and he's warning that His Word will not create peace, but will go so far as to have the power to turn families against one another.

If you are honestly attempting to interpret the last quote literally then there's no hope for you.
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So the parable of "hating" your mother and father is a clear reference to the sort of dedication required to follow the Lord. Unless you literally "hate" your father and mother as compared to your love for the Lord, you cannot follow him. Wordly relations must be entirely second to your relationship with God. This is a pretty common and consistent example of Biblical hyperbole, of which Jesus was fond.

I suppose you also believe that Jesus is speaking about a literal sword, but that's absurd, especially when he criticizes Peter for attempting to defend him (with a sword) as he was being arrested. His message is the sword, and it's that message that he has come to deliver to the world, and he's warning that His Word will not create peace, but will go so far as to have the power to turn families against one another.

If you are honestly attempting to interpret the last quote literally then there's no hope for you.


Oh, REALLY??? Let's SEE what JESUS (the fake one, I remind you) told his disciples: Contrary to your dogmatic beliefs, Jesus was not planning on “accepting his fate” by waiting for the Jews to arrest him,as we see that he even prepared his disciples in case a fight was necessary:

35 Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” “Nothing,” they answered. 36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. / Luke 22:35-36

Question: What would Jesus and his disciples do with these swords? According to the Christians, Jesus was the “peace-maker”, yet here we see him giving the order for his disciples to arm themselves! And you definitely don't use swords to pare apples and bananas! Swords are used for combat, and combat alone! However, Jesus hadn't predicted a battle against highly-trained Roman soldiers, thus this explains why he thought that “two swords would be enough” (Luke 22:35-38).

Once again, the Muslim knows the Bible BETTER than the Christian who "defends it" without any knowledge, and without giving references :rofl:
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