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Aug 6 2012 10:13am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 6 2012 10:12am)
People who don't vote republican have no right to vote


I think he lets them vote if they pay the exorbitant poll tax, he's pro rich people after all
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Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 6 2012 10:52am)
I don't recall either of them being the driving force behind wars
Its not really irony unless you get the chickenhawks on board


Awww, don't wanna define poverty?
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Aug 6 2012 10:32am
Quote (Matao @ Aug 6 2012 11:24am)
hes gone to war with iran ?

if only you would think .....




...cyber-war son , learn to 21st century
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Aug 6 2012 12:42pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Aug 7 2012 04:32am)
...cyber-war son , learn to 21st century


pretty sure stuxnet wasnt obamas decision
according to the new york times , olympic games was started under bush ...
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Quote (Matao @ 6 Aug 2012 13:42)
pretty sure stuxnet wasnt obamas decision
according to the new york times , olympic games was started under bush ...


Eh, he did choose to pull the trigger.

Not that infecting computers with viruses is a 'war.' lol.
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Aug 6 2012 12:54pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Aug 6 2012 10:47am)
Eh, he did choose to pull the trigger.

Not that infecting computers with viruses is a 'war.'  lol.


I think it is. Attacking a nations infrastructure certainly counts as war IMO. Wasn't there talk about how targeting US infrastructure via cyber attacks would be considered an act of war?
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Quote (thundercock @ 6 Aug 2012 13:54)
I think it is.  Attacking a nations infrastructure certainly counts as war IMO.  Wasn't there talk about how targeting US infrastructure via cyber attacks would be considered an act of war?


I think it's a hell of a stretch. It's an attack, sure, but it's not a war in any but the most abstract and theoretical sense.
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Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Aug 6 2012 10:57am)
I think it's a hell of a stretch.  It's an attack, sure, but it's not a war in any but the most abstract and theoretical sense.


I guess it depends on the severity of the attack. Would you consider 9/11 an act of war? If a nation was able to shutdown a significant portion of our power and it caused riots and mayhem, I'd consider that pretty serious.
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I think it's a hell of a stretch.  It's an attack, sure, but it's not a war in any but the most abstract and theoretical sense.


Stuxnet was intended to cause meltdowns in nuclear production facilities, potentially causing widespread destruction and death.
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