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Jun 21 2012 11:32am
Quote (Dune1 @ Jun 21 2012 01:29pm)
Where did you ever see Jesus saying that sin was "right"?


Oh I spoke to him acouple weeks ago.
It was a pretty enlightening talk.
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Jun 21 2012 11:33am
Quote (Matao @ Jun 21 2012 01:31pm)
i never saw jesus at all
or read anything he wrote
and neither did you

but the question still remains
why are gay and lesbian christians able to become church members , and even ministers ?


I don't believe they should become ministers.. so you are making an assertion that I do not agree with..

Quote (inkanddagger @ Jun 21 2012 01:31pm)
Where did He ever say it was wrong?


Jesus always spoke out against Sin. Jesus condoned the heterosexual relationship, not the Homosexual one.
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Jun 21 2012 11:34am
Quote (thundercock @ Jun 21 2012 01:30pm)
I don't think it's an illness.  However, it's akin to someone being a nymphomaniac, a liar, a glutton, etc.  I'd imagine that Jesus would forgive them for their sins and tell them to lead a better life.

But yea, I can't stand pride festivals.  It disgusts me as much as a KKK rally.   

Inb4PrideIsComparedToMillionManMarch


I personally find the Pride parades in poor taste...

but akin to KKK rallys?
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Jun 21 2012 11:36am
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I don't think it's an illness.  However, it's akin to someone being a nymphomaniac, a liar, a glutton, etc.  I'd imagine that Jesus would forgive them for their sins and tell them to lead a better life.

But yea, I can't stand pride festivals.  It disgusts me as much as a KKK rally.   

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You act as if it is an ignorant comparison.

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Jun 21 2012 11:37am
Quote (Dune1 @ Jun 22 2012 05:33am)
I don't believe they should become ministers.. so you are making an assertion that I do not agree with...


im not asking you what you beleive
older , far more knowaldgeable christains than yourself beleive it is
there are people going to churchs every week , and listening to sermons preached by gay ministers

if its soooo wrong , that wouldnt be the case , would it ?

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Jun 21 2012 11:39am
Quote (Matao @ Jun 21 2012 01:37pm)
im not asking you what you beleive
older , far more knowaldgeable christains than yourself beleive it is
there are people going to churchs every week , and listening to sermons preached by gay ministers

if its soooo wrong , that wouldnt be the case , would it ?

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Do not make assumptions on my knowledge. If we were all of like mind there would not be 5,000 denominations in the world.
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Jun 21 2012 11:40am
Quote (Matao @ Jun 21 2012 01:37pm)
im not asking you what you beleive
older , far more knowaldgeable christains than yourself beleive it is
there are people going to churchs every week , and listening to sermons preached by gay ministers

if its soooo wrong , that wouldnt be the case , would it ?

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...well I'll be darned , I think I finally figured it out
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Jun 21 2012 11:42am
Quote (Tylr @ Jun 21 2012 09:36am)
You act as if it is an ignorant comparison.


It undoubtedly is. The systematic discrimination against homosexuals is quite tame compared to the former systematic discrimination against blacks. Let me know when it was ok to own homosexuals as slaves. Let me know when we had separate schools, water fountains, and other facilities for gays. Hell, we're STILL feeling the effects of the racism. So yea, it is an ignorant comparison.

Quote (bitg_pj @ Jun 21 2012 09:34am)
I personally find the Pride parades in poor taste...

but akin to KKK rallys?


One preaches hate, the other preaches the public embrace of sexuality. Both are pretty bad according to my moral compass.
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Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jun 22 2012 05:40am)
...well I'll be darned , I think I finally figured it out


no , im not anglican , if thats what you were thinking
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Jun 21 2012 11:51am
Quote (Dune1 @ Jun 21 2012 01:33pm)
Jesus condoned the heterosexual relationship, not the Homosexual one.


Really? I can't seem to find that in the Bible anywhere. Could you show me the exact verse where Jesus says that?
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