the thing is: if we throw our laws and respect for basic human rights out of the window by publicy torturing the guy to death, we would not only lose whatever moral highground we might have left, we would also be feeding the trolls. metaphorically, ISIS would be bringing out the "triggggered-meme-gifs" and celebrate the torture death of their disciple as a big victory. it would prove to them that the terror attack was successful at unhinging us.

Yes, and at the same time calling for the even the death penalty at all, as our president has, and which I disagree wholeheartedly, means the terrorist has an opportunity to become a martyr and a recruitment tool. Forcing him to stay alive in a shameful existence is a far better punishment, and gives our opponents nothing in return.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Nov 3 2017 12:37am

> It's a long shot, but perhaps Donald Trump should stop tweeting for a while.

Best thing I've heard in a while.

Holy FUCK

Do not ever have kids or train anybody. I hope you're a janitor. Fuck you are dumb as shit Chris. Wtf

What does he specialize his training in?

We should put him in a camp.

“If we kill them, they win”



I think either way is acceptable for no spam. People seem to be quitting isis in droves because theyve hit money problems

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Nov 3 2017 06:49am

Yes it's true, that's the point of view of believers and martyrs
Unfortunately your small mind isn't able to handle it

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Nov 3 2017 07:07am

He's an English major.

Nuff said.

Youre delusional. In reality people are quitting ISIS

The state doesn't have the right to torture you or should not be able to take away your life. But the collective state offers protection against what is seen as negative or counter productive to society and as such you remove those from society who don't deserve to be apart of it.

The government however has no part in your life since that's your life. So it has no right to inflict physical violence onto you as a mean of punishment or to take your life.

Prison isn't slavery , it's a means to an end to control what collectively a society wants to prevent from being apart of society.

I know you are going to go off about the fact minority groups are the majority of the prison population but that doesn't mean you can conflate that to mean slavery. What that is , is simply just a misapplication of justice.

Maybe that's why you think center left or left leaning is center right or people who lean liberal aren't real liberals to you because you have abandoned the ideas of classical liberalism to suit your own ideological pursuit of "justice" but don't realize you end up just being a form of authoritarianism that you despise the far right/conservatives for adhering too.