nah Uighurs formerly known as xiongnu or huns is merely our little bitch atm who produce girl for night club in china. maybe u should really learn some chinese and go read local chinese site for news cause westerner news paper never really go that deep into its territory. to be honest, I have no idea why u westerner r so interested in xiongnu. maybe because Genghis Khan fuck u up so bad during mongolia empire era, as it extend all the way to europe. so really what get u ppl so interested in this tribe, in our 5000 years of history there r far more interesting history/war during the dynasty era of china before qing and at the end of han then these xiongnu crap u westerner seems gets all so exited.

China, awesome land of freedom since 5000 years...never divided btw, and not a single massacre...
You sure you read the right books ? because i open wikipedia and i can read "Chinese Civil War 1927-1950"... How much deads in this + mao clean up ? how much- internal millions kills -for the whole 20th century ?

Foolish bug eater Gengish Khans advisors are (and he might have turkish blood as well) Turks and Timur is just another Turk. All you can do is atacking unarmed people stealing their children and genociding them with calling them terrorists. No wonder why you eat dogs

bro, china never call them self land of freedom lol. and I think u certain knows little of chinese history as well. in history of china, civil war always ended in blood. for its 5000 years of history war never stop, like I said before dont user western stand on a country such as china.



I dont give 2 shit about Gengish Khans might or might not be turks, he is of nothing special in china. even the mighty mongolia empire didn't make it past 100 years in china. and bro plz, dont use ur western standard on us. we aren't white, so save those racism/humanitarian bullshit to western country. and what do u know western country in europe now under go islamisation, looks what diversity and toleration gets u. we simply deal with the problem before it gets out of hands, look at isis this is what it looks like if it gets out of hand. sorry to say but better them then us

Irony coming from a Turk

Truth is china is another shithole like any other country; and 5000 years is a wrong value, the same kind of superstition like adam & eve.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Emperor
first reliable sources start at -200
But dont go to hard on americans they are pretty much ashamed of their "300 years" story...

If theres 1 serious business country inthere; it's Japan;
Their unity is just sick,
- The way they nearly invaded whole china in 1937+ killing 20+Millions chineses while losing 1M soldier
- The sick Kamikazes and various sick stuff they did...

But much of them racists it's horrible, i remember i posted some support in their JSP section when fukushima exploded; i got insulted without reasons; so i just posted a giant picture of Fukuppy and said Ciao ByeBye !

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Dec 9 2014 09:57pm

plz bro, we go confucius for 2000 years. there no such thing as wrong value, when the country is deeply united with the same race and same believe to this date. ofcourse we r slow down by misleading of qing emperor or mao, but after we correct the path look where we r now and where we head. u can call us shithole or what ever, mater effect every country in the world r shithole bigger/smaller to a certain degree since theres presence of humanity. but face it our shithole is now about to dominated the world. frankly we dont give a fuck about america and its history, 300 years is merely a blink of an eye if u look at our history book. not worth discussing

so you wouldnt give a shit now mongol empire didnt make it more than 100 years anywhere else in the world thanks to gengish khans sons

http://news.yahoo.com/china-wants-uighur-refugees-back-thailand-073026774.html
same dog eater lie you invaded east turkistan killed them and moved your population there and you even want uyghurs back from thailand if history doesnt matter why you want them back to kill them ?


irony of what ? if you are going to defend the minorities and their betrayal in the ottoman empire (call it genocide with completely ignoring the deaths of turkish civilians) it will be a long discussion you better open another topic but first you must think why we just didnt kill them all at the height of our power ?

This post was edited by Mutantlord on Dec 10 2014 07:21am

true, it proves them wrong. the Dzungar khanate and the Dzungars ruled in the area until 1757, after which they were systematically exterminated by in what'd be called a genocide in modern days.


are you talking of the Turkish failure in Russian Armenia at Sarikamish that was blamed on Armenians? not betrayal. the Czar did praise the Armenians after that though.
or are you talking about how the Russians took over Van? they'd have taken it over even if the Ottomans hadn't tried to exterminate them.
or are you talking about general paranoia during those times? doesn't matter.
or are you talking about an alternative line of history? you can keep that in your imagination.


do you even know what a genocide is? if some armed Armenian militias did slay Turks in some amounts after the Ottomans had failed to attack the Armenian community in Van, it doesn't mean that they (the Armenians) didn't get genocided in general.
have you ever looked at the numbers?


pan-Ottomanism hadn't failed, the Young Turks didn't rule, the Empire wasn't as totally impotent as it was by then, the Empire wasn't falling apart and so on and so on. the Armenians in specific had been targeted before though, in the 1894 Hamidian massacres.
and most importantly because the Armenians weren't seen as a threat before the war broke out and Russia / the Ottomans were on the opposite sides of it.
what a stupid question


i'm sure i've forgotten something but if you've got half a working brain and a knack for puzzles i'm sure you can make something out of it, figure out the picture and so on.
and then we'll wonder why the Assyrians were massacred (i won't even mention the massacring of the Greeks because i'm absolutely sure that your opinions regarding them would make Hitler's opinions about Jews look relatively docile).

This post was edited by Gastly on Dec 10 2014 09:55am

oo shit Who are you another crypto who used to live in Turkey ? Ok i am good crypto hunter lets start from top to bottom
Nice tactic Everybody blamed Enver pasha for sarıkamış because he sent our army there (without backup) to freeze nearly 90 k soldiers died without firing a single bullet
Exterminate ? nice word why you didn't say fight or battle ? so you are a crypto on Russian side ?
General paranoia or truth What kind of goverment would dissmiss its own army so enemies can easily conquer the country ? A devşirme kind. Sultan Abdülhamit(who met and refused the offer of theodor herzl the leader of zionism) once said something about it before creating a small ottoman cia Most of the minorities worked against us because they hoped to be rich like those oil rich arabs If you dont know what kind of underground mines in Turkey then you didnt even understand why 3 4 countries tried to conquer and share our lands
So i make it up from my ass ? Today there is even a book named : ethnic betrayal during the independence war http://www.dr.com.tr/kitap/ıstiklal-harbinde-etnik-ıhanet/necdet-sevinc/arastirma-tarih/tarih/cumhuriyet-tarihi/urunno=0000000398900
Armenian community huh ? I thought van is our land yes what a peace loving community http://armeniangenocidefacts.com/i-witnessed-and-lived-through/ (it looks like the pdf version links are dead in pdf version you can see the pictures of the diary and handwriting of the russian commander i can try to find if you want )
Yes i have and i know what is a genocide Which number you are talking about 300k 600 k or 1.5m looks like there will be higher numbers thanks to politics but nothing was proved and accepted 100 years ago ?
So you didnt even get what i said Apparently the era you are talking about is not the height of our power usually nations that fight for survival cant make genocides :bonk:
What is hamidian really ? do you mean (hamidiye alayları) hamidiye regiment kurdish regiment that was tasked to kick armenians ? seeing the behaviors of these terrorists and drug dealers (who betray the every country they live in) today you think somehow turks are responsible for whatever they did :bonk: You say there was a massacre before ? So why did we try to genocide them during the war then ? wouldnt it be easier to just finish them off before ww1 ? are we idiots ? :bonk: the armenians who were not in the betrayal team did not get kicked istanbul armenians are still here (and istanbul was the capitol of ottoman empire )
So if you have more questions i suggest you to open another topic here is china topic :bonk: