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Jun 24 2012 02:49am
Quote (Dune1 @ Jun 23 2012 09:39pm)
Yes it is taken out of context.  You do know the purpose of miracles right?  Many of those miracles were confirmed in the bible.

http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/matthew-henry/Mark.16.14-Mark.16.18

Section 3 explains it pretty well.


Once again, WHERE is THIS taken OUT OF CONTEXT???

*Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, “Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to the whole creation. 16 He that believes and is baptised shall be saved; but he that disbelieves shall be condemned. 17 Believers will be given the power to perform miracles; in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they will pick up serpents; and when they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”

Now, here is an interesting piece of information:

In the most ancient manuscripts, Mark 16 ends at verse 8! 9-20 is missing. These last 11 verses were added in the 10th century, because the Gospel according to Mark, which was the first Gospel ever written (and then again 65 years after Jesus, when all the disciples were already dead), doesn't mention the resurrection, nor does it mention the ascension of Jesus Christ.

Thus, apart from the last 2 points, we have a dilemma here:

1-Admit that the Bible has been altered, thus corrupted.
2-Take the poison test to prove you are a true Christian believer.
3-Refuse to take the poison test, thus proving you are not a true Christian Believer!

And believe me, there is NO EXCUSE out of this! In my experience, I have encountered lots of missionaries and regular Christians who try (in vain) and make up excuses like: “You are tempting God”, or “These miracles were only meant for the disciples”, or “the disciples already performed these miracles, and so did Paul when he was bitten by a snake”...

However, ALL OF THESE EXCUSES are already refuted by Jesus who CLEARLY SAYS: “believers” (all those who are baptised etc.) will be able to perform these miracles”, thus, there is truly NO WAY OUT OF THIS!

Case Closed.

PS I will keep hammering you with this until you admit that you are wrong and your fake religion is just that: FAKE!!!
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Jun 24 2012 02:51am
Quote (Matao @ Jun 24 2012 03:13am)
its funny to see people defending the bible
its even funnier to see those discrediting it not use science to do so
as if someone brainwashed to beleive the bible would suddenly open his eyes .......


Exactly because we use science and LOGIC, we deny the Bible (most of it, at least) as the "word of God"
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Jun 24 2012 02:53am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jun 24 2012 06:33am)
...there are many scholarly interpretations of the symbolism in Genesis available to anyone with a computer and a little time to spare .

Here is one from  Mathew Henry's Concise Commentary regarding your confusion over those verses -



Commentary on Genesis 1:6-13

(Read Genesis 1:6-13)
The earth was emptiness, but by a word spoken, it became full of God's riches, and his they are still. Though the use of them is allowed to man, they are from God, and to his service and honour they must be used. The earth, at his command, brings forth grass, herbs, and fruits. God must have the glory of all the benefit we receive from the produce of the earth. If we have, through grace, an interest in Him who is the Fountain, we may rejoice in him when the streams of temporal mercies are dried up.

Commentary on Genesis 1:14-19



(Read Genesis 1:14-19)
In the fourth day's work, the creation of the sun, moon, and stars is accounted for. All these are the works of God. The stars are spoken of as they appear to our eyes, without telling their number, nature, place, size, or motions; for the Scriptures were written, not to gratify curiosity, or make us astronomers, but to lead us to God, and make us saints. The lights of heaven are made to serve him; they do it faithfully, and shine in their season without fail. We are set as lights in this world to serve God; but do we in like manner answer the end of our creation? We do not: our light does not shine before God, as his lights shine before us. We burn our Master's candles, but do not mind our Master's work.


Quick question/refutation:

How the F*** did the earth come into existence THREE DAYS BEFORE THE SUN???
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Quote (poulgaragr @ Jun 24 2012 04:49am)
Once again, WHERE is THIS taken OUT OF CONTEXT???

*Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, “Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to the whole creation. 16 He that believes and is baptised shall be saved; but he that disbelieves shall be condemned. 17 Believers will be given the power to perform miracles; in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they will pick up serpents; and when they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”

Now, here is an interesting piece of information:

In the most ancient manuscripts, Mark 16 ends at verse 8! 9-20 is missing. These last 11 verses were added in the 10th century, because the Gospel according to Mark, which was the first Gospel ever written (and then again 65 years after Jesus, when all the disciples were already dead), doesn't mention the resurrection, nor does it mention the ascension of Jesus Christ.

Thus, apart from the last 2 points, we have a dilemma here:

1-Admit that the Bible has been altered, thus corrupted.
2-Take the poison test to prove you are a true Christian believer.
3-Refuse to take the poison test, thus proving you are not a true Christian Believer!

And believe me, there is NO EXCUSE out of this! In my experience, I have encountered lots of missionaries and regular Christians who try (in vain) and make up excuses like: “You are tempting God”, or “These miracles were only meant for the disciples”, or “the disciples already performed these miracles, and so did Paul when he was bitten by a snake”...

However, ALL OF THESE EXCUSES are already refuted by Jesus who CLEARLY SAYS: “believers” (all those who are baptised etc.) will be able to perform these miracles”, thus, there is truly NO WAY OUT OF THIS!

Case Closed.

PS I will keep hammering you with this until you admit that you are wrong and your fake religion is just that: FAKE!!!


If you understood the purpose of a miracle (which you obviously do not) you would understand. Again, it is taken out of context because that was all fulfilled later on in scripture. To not read the ENTIRE N.T. and point out one verse is the definition of out of context. You are not even trying anymore..
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Jun 24 2012 06:06am
Quote (Dune1 @ Jun 24 2012 10:37am)
If you understood the purpose of a miracle (which you obviously do not) you would understand.  Again, it is taken out of context because that was all fulfilled later on in scripture.  To not read the ENTIRE N.T. and point out one verse is the definition of out of context.  You are not even trying anymore..


LOL!!! What miracle??? In all my years of studying Comparative Religion, I haven't see a SINGLE Christian perform ANY of these miracles. And AGAIN, ***NOTHING IS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT***, because ALL of the ***CONTEXT** is quoted here. Just FACE FACTS, CHRISTIAN. Your religion self-exposed itself for what it is: FAKE~!~!~!

PS I have read ALL of your BS Book; I have 26 (!) versions of the Bible at home, and 4 extra New Testaments.
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Quote (poulgaragr @ Jun 24 2012 08:06am)
LOL!!! What miracle??? In all my years of studying Comparative Religion, I haven't see a SINGLEChristian perform ANY of these miracles. And AGAIN, ***NOTHING IS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT***, because ALL of the ***CONTEXT** is quoted here. Just FACE FACTS, CHRISTIAN. Your religion self-exposed itself for what it is: FAKE~!~!~!

PS I have read ALLof your BS Book; I have 26 (!) versions of the Bible at home, and 4 extra New Testaments.


What miracle? The entire text you quoted is based on miracles...

I have given you a clear rebuttal and all you want to do is write in caps and repeat yourself over and over (even though your questions have been answered numerous times). "Those who have ears let them listen."
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Jun 25 2012 01:01am
Quote (Dune1 @ Jun 24 2012 06:06pm)
What miracle?  The entire text you quoted is based on miracles...

I have given you a clear rebuttal and all you want to do is write in caps and repeat yourself over and over (even though your questions have been answered numerous times).  "Those who have ears let them listen."


I am AWAITING for your so-called "Evidence" since the beginning of this thread, but "surprisingly", none will come forth :rofl:
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Jun 25 2012 06:35am
Carl Sagan wrote better stuff than both of those books. You should read him.
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Jun 25 2012 09:57am
Quote (Skinned @ Jun 25 2012 12:35pm)
Carl Sagan wrote better stuff than both of those books.  You should read him.


GAHAHAHAHA :rofl:
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