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May 16 2013 03:04pm
Quote (Vereor @ 16 May 2013 18:26)
keep reaching. the only thing you know about me is i happen to frequent this board.


Oh :( ....Still having trouble giving a fuck.

By the way, nice background picture on your profile. I like the degenerate pothead right next to Einstein.
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May 17 2013 01:42am
Quote (PesChye @ May 16 2013 11:41am)
Come at me, bro.

I can dispute any bullshit claim you make.

My girlfriend and I are living proof** that you're full of shit.


That post was aimed at ChurchGirl, the admitted cross dresser/mentally ill member.

Nice to see you and your sister still meet up for Halloween.
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That post was aimed at ChurchGirl, the admitted cross dresser/mentally ill member.

Nice to see you and your sister still meet up for Halloween.


;) don't be mad I stole her from your beautiful country.

How's the right hand doing?
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May 18 2013 12:47am
Quote (PesChye @ May 17 2013 05:18am)
;) don't be mad I stole her from your beautiful country.

How's the right hand doing?


Pretty well, ask your lady's face.
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May 19 2013 04:53pm
Quote (CoheedAndCambria @ May 15 2013 09:33pm)
Would like to read the actual research and not the IBTimes regurgitated material. Seemingly, the way they defined "addictive" is much too broad. Any repetitive behavior when stopped could then be defined as an addiction.
The common cause seems to be stress, which isn't controlled for. These seem to be the results when a stress reliever is taken away. Replace "marijuana" with any relaxing ritual and you will likely get the same results of the study when such a ritual is taken away.


Here's a link to the study: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0044864#pone-0044864-t004

They report that overall marijuana use was mildly addictive, comparable to smoking cigarettes (though I think this study would really have to be done in parallel to see if there was a difference).

With that being said, if you look at Figure 2, you can see that in their Low Severity of Dependence Scale (SDS) group, there was no apparent withdrawal.

Here is the SDS test: http://ncpic.org.au/static/pdfs/assessment-tools/severity-of-dependence-scale.pdf

If you score lower than 8, you would fit into their Low SDS group (no evidence of withdrawal), rather than the High SDS group (evidence of withdrawal). I don't smoke anymore, but I would have scored probably at 4 back when I did.

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May 19 2013 05:15pm
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Here's a link to the study:  http://www.plosone.org/article/infodoi10.1371journal.pone.0044864#pone-0044864-t004

They report that overall marijuana use was mildly addictive, comparable to smoking cigarettes (though I think this study would really have to be done in parallel to see if there was a difference).

With that being said, if you look at Figure 2, you can see that in their Low Severity of Dependence Scale (SDS) group, there was no apparent withdrawal. 

Here is the SDS test:  http://ncpic.org.au/static/pdfs/assessment-tools/severity-of-dependence-scale.pdf

If you score lower than 8, you would fit into their Low SDS group (no evidence of withdrawal), rather than the High SDS group (evidence of withdrawal).  I don't smoke anymore, but I would have scored probably at 4 back when I did.


so we have two studies supporting our side of this...

Quote (LordTrogdor @ May 16 2013 05:19am)
http://www.karger.com/Article/Pdf/317249

really hope this link works............. if not let me know and I can sum it up for y'all... page 3 is all you really need to read.


yet.... of course... lifebane won't accept those, only his study which was very half-assed.
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May 19 2013 05:28pm
Quote (compelled @ May 19 2013 06:53pm)
Here's a link to the study:  http://www.plosone.org/article/infodoi10.1371journal.pone.0044864#pone-0044864-t004

They report that overall marijuana use was mildly addictive, comparable to smoking cigarettes (though I think this study would really have to be done in parallel to see if there was a difference).

With that being said, if you look at Figure 2, you can see that in their Low Severity of Dependence Scale (SDS) group, there was no apparent withdrawal. 

Here is the SDS test:  http://ncpic.org.au/static/pdfs/assessment-tools/severity-of-dependence-scale.pdf

If you score lower than 8, you would fit into their Low SDS group (no evidence of withdrawal), rather than the High SDS group (evidence of withdrawal).  I don't smoke anymore, but I would have scored probably at 4 back when I did.


Many bones to pick with this.
Foremost, the link is broken. Otherwise:

One, it's not a published scientific study. It's actually not even published seemingly. It's a peer-review online journal.
Two, that SDS test is a joke.
Three, non-probability samples are often VERY misleading.
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May 20 2013 11:47am
Quote (CoheedAndCambria @ May 19 2013 06:28pm)
Many bones to pick with this.
Foremost, the link is broken. Otherwise:

One, it's not a published scientific study. It's actually not even published seemingly. It's a peer-review online journal.
Two, that SDS test is a joke.
Three, non-probability samples are often VERY misleading.


http://www.plosone.org/article/infodoi10.1371journal.pone.0044864

sorry about the bad link, try that one.

copy and paste the URL into your browser and it should work

This post was edited by compelled on May 20 2013 11:49am
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Quote (compelled @ May 20 2013 01:47pm)
http://www.plosone.org/article/infodoi10.1371journal.pone.0044864

sorry about the bad link, try that one.

copy and paste the URL into your browser and it should work


still not werking :(
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May 21 2013 09:13am
Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ May 18 2013 01:47am)
Pretty well, ask your lady's face.


Burst out loling irl at this. ahahaha.
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