Oh, are you talking about loving Jesus or something?

What are the real reasons?

...that's for you to figure out .

Why can't it exist? there is no meaning for it just self preservation, with no believe in something greater then ourselves. Sure they may want to help others, and do right by others. But there is no meaning behind treating others like you would like to be treated.

It is not that God exist or does not exist...It is how we want to live our lifes, that really matters. Do you want to live your Life through love or through nothing but the act of living.
What we do now will change nothing When I die I will be dead and that's the end. OR there is consequences to my actions after death .
What is the better rule to live by? Those Who Believe on nothing or those who believe there is consequences even after death..
That is the believe system we tend to ignore. We say if people believe it is soo they Don't need to fear death. But we can also say those who don't believe don't need to fear their actions while alive.

This post was edited by doomchaser on May 7 2013 11:29am

To the flawed and incomplete human it may SEEM stupid, but you aren't God. What if you WERE God and see an explanation for everything? An easy picture I can paint for you is a child who was born in extremely worse conditions and maybe death WAS indeed the merciful thing to do. The child is taken into heaven where there is absolutely no suffering at all. And yet because of the child's death, many other children were able to receive food as well.

Look, you're a small and finite human being. You can't see infinite nor can you comprehend it. Yet you THINK you can pass judgement on someone who IS INDEED infinite and just and merciful and loving. Arrogant much?

This should be interesting... :/

It could exist, I just don't have evidence of such a thing existing, which makes it difficult for me to find a reason for making that leap.



Well I agree it's not whether the god exists or doesn't, that the possibility of living a life through love without a god exists is my point.



Without an afterlife, my actions now can still can change the lives of future human beings. For example, Jonas Salk invented a polio vaccine, look how much has changed after his death as a result of his actions during his life. There are of course more ordinary and common ways to help in smaller ways while alive and/or after your death, like most sorts of charitable work, teaching, and so many other things.



The former because I can't justify the latter rationally. I'd love to imagine all the bad people get what's coming to them and all the good people get rewarded, but not at the price of reason. It's unsustainable reasoning to take things I want to be true as truth.

...the best way to start is by examining the behaviors and activities you engage in that you believe would offend God if He in fact does exist .

Which god?