Quote (AEtheric @ 9 Jun 2013 01:18)

Sure, but you can't deny that the questionnaire definitely proved that those who took it after a high stress occurrence have 'faith' in science, and that faith can absolutely apply to science just as much as it can religion. I'd say that paired with absolute beliefs, there has to be faith to take these beliefs so strongly.  You're really just nitpicking by saying that a sort of substratum of meaning, i.e. taking beliefs to the absolute level, is applicable in anyone. If that's true, it still does not refute the fact that people can take absolute belief in science just as much as people can take absolute belief in religion.

Quote (brmv @ Jun 9 2013 11:25am)

sorry, but i have seen before that you have sometimes comprehension difficulties
what did that questionnaire prove?
week assumption by some so-called psychologists
who constructed a 'study' to prove their own set of beliefs

if they would have selected cheese eaters for their study, would have exposed half of them to stress
and then asked a series of questions on taste/quality of cheese
they would have 'proved' that under stress there is a higher craving for cheese
or something to that tune

that study is not worth the pixels it is presented on

Quote (Lifebane99 @ 9 Jun 2013 01:26)

Not worth the time.

Quote (brmv @ Jun 8 2013 07:25pm)

sorry, but i have seen before that you have sometimes comprehension difficulties
what did that questionnaire prove?
week assumption by some so-called psychologists
who constructed a 'study' to prove their own set of beliefs

if they would have selected cheese eaters for their study, would have exposed half of them to stress
and then asked a series of questions on taste/quality of cheese
they would have 'proved' that under stress there is a higher craving for cheese
or something to that tune

that study is not worth the pixels it is presented on

Quote (AEtheric @ 9 Jun 2013 01:29)

I don't have a problem with comprehension. Please do not throw out insults when we are having a civil discussion. :/  Anyways, yeah, you could choose any category you want, but it would not be pertinent to the issue. The issue is that people rely upon beliefs that are held through their own philosophy of life, and when it is science or not, they hold onto them more strongly when facing adversity. That much is apparent. I believe you just don't want to admit that science can be taken on faith just as much as any other belief.

Quote (AEtheric @ Jun 9 2013 11:29am)

I don't have a problem with comprehension. Please do not throw out insults when we are having a civil discussion. :/  Anyways, yeah, you could choose any category you want, but it would not be pertinent to the issue. The issue is that people rely upon beliefs that are held through their own philosophy of life, and when it is science or not, they hold onto them more strongly when facing adversity. That much is apparent. I believe you just don't want to admit that science can be taken on faith just as much as any other belief.

Quote (brmv @ Jun 8 2013 07:32pm)

that was not meant as an insult but just stating the fact that you did not understand what i said - i clearly denied their credibility in my post before that, so the questionnaire can't prove anything regarding 'faith' or whatever

Quote (Lifebane99 @ Jun 8 2013 07:32pm)

Well if i am falling yeah i probably follow the laws of gravity, but that hardly proves anything.

Quote (AEtheric @ Jun 9 2013 11:34am)

I think you are the one who is lacking reading comprehension. If we prove that there is stronger attachment to absolute beliefs in adversity, then we can equally apply that to science, the flying spaghetti monster, or even God.  You said it yourself, and now you're moving the goalposts.

Quote (Lifebane99 @ Jun 8 2013 07:34pm)

Its not even remotely comparable.

Quote (AEtheric @ Jun 8 2013 08:18pm)

Sure, but you can't deny that the questionnaire definitely proved that those who took it after a high stress occurrence have 'faith' in science, and that faith can absolutely apply to science just as much as it can religion. I'd say that paired with absolute beliefs, there has to be faith to take these beliefs so strongly.  You're really just nitpicking by saying that a sort of substratum of meaning, i.e. taking beliefs to the absolute level, is applicable in anyone. If that's true, it still does not refute the fact that people can take absolute belief in science just as much as people can take absolute belief in religion.