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May 18 2013 12:08pm
Quote (Skinned @ May 18 2013 11:51am)
I bet you'll find that the Jewish population is a small minority comparatively despite your insinuation that elite schools are Jewish institutions.

Also, Jewish Harvard MBA's are the ones successful due to connections?  What does ethnicity have to do with it?

Explain it to me, I have a pea-sized brain.

/e Easy find:

http://i43.tinypic.com/ajrsj9.jpg

Jews would be in the section marked "other".


You graph is incorrect because Harvard, even on their admissions site, does not distinguish between White & Jewish, which is a mistake.

I take that back, your graph is fine.

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May 18 2013 12:09pm
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I would hope they are a small population, I would also hope that demographics of any university would be very close to actual population but it isn't like that in the real world. There is a fair amount of discrimination for elite colleges like that, different ethnic groups have varying standards needed to be accepted. Asians and Jews have a higher capacity for intelligence than other ethnic groups as well, considering that information, it should correlate that there would be a higher population in institutions of higher education. I think that is mostly true but with 65%+ of our society also being white, it would make sense to see a high representation of exceptional white folks and other groups.



http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/apply/statistics.html - I found this as well, it seems that Asians make up 20%~ of admissions as well, very interesting statistics overall. Very cleverly they do not distinguish the rest of the enrollment, it is assumed to be of the same group, i.e., white., that is disappointing.

Assuming all of this is true, it would be that about 30-35%~ are white in Harvard.


Nevermind...just nevermind...

A+ derail with post-science defense.

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May 18 2013 12:13pm
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Nevermind...just nevermind...

A+ derail with post-science defense.


What..?
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May 18 2013 12:14pm
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Those types of degrees are reliant more on your connections and networking, if you're going to sink money into a top school like Harvard you better make some friends while you're there!

That's where the value is in Ivy League educations. You're able to make those connections and network with the people to get these opportunities. It's probably not the worst investment a person could make, just as long as they're not looking to coast through college and into their future. You can probably get a lot better internships with the Harvard label and Harvard professors' letters of recommendation than you can with random university credentials.
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May 18 2013 12:14pm
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What..?


I suppose eugenics would be pre-science considering its debunked status.
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May 18 2013 12:19pm
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I suppose eugenics would be pre-science considering its debunked status.


What are you talking about exactly?

IQ is a very good standard measurement for cognitive ability, it isn't perfect or static but offers a usable metric and a fair determination of potential, to a certain point. No one here can dispute that Jews and Asians as a group have a higher IQ on average, that isn't to say that a Jew or Asians individually are stupid or smart. You cannot determine someone intelligence based on ethnicity, however, you can measure a groups average IQ and make general statements based upon these facts. It can be done for political parties, political tendency, ethnic category, pretty much anything you could think of and can test with a decent sample size.

That isn't an argument for eugenics.

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That's where the value is in Ivy League educations. You're able to make those connections and network with the people to get these opportunities. It's probably not the worst investment a person could make, just as long as they're not looking to coast through college and into their future. You can probably get a lot better internships with the Harvard label and Harvard professors' letters of recommendation than you can with random university credentials.


Yup, where privilege is fostered! :thumbsup:

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May 18 2013 12:49pm
My graduate school is on that "elite" list and there is little doubt in my mind that my Jewish girlfriend and my Asian DNA contribute to my success.
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My graduate school is on that "elite" list and there is little doubt in my mind that my Jewish girlfriend and my Asian DNA contribute to my success.


I'm dating a Cuban girl so of course I'm not in school and there are more babies on the way.
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My graduate school is on that "elite" list and there is little doubt in my mind that my Jewish girlfriend and my Asian DNA contribute to my success.


:thumbsup:
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May 18 2013 10:13pm
In my country a trade generally makes more money than a degree.
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