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May 18 2013 07:19am
Quote (Lifebane99 @ May 18 2013 06:53am)
Just one thing here, the double standard, had the man wanted to keep the child and the mother aborted it, he would just have to suck it up.


Men do not have any reproduction rights.
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May 18 2013 07:37am
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Men do not have any reproduction rights.


or responsibilities?
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May 18 2013 07:48am
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Men do not have any reproduction rights.


He has the right to pull out or wear a condom. But no, one human being doesn't have a right over another human being's body. Those days are long over Mr. Natural law.

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May 18 2013 07:50am
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He has the right to pull out or wear a condom.  But no, one human being doesn't have a right over another human being's body.  Those days are long over Mr. Natural law.


But if she decides to keep it against his will, he has to pay child support.
If she decides to kill it against his will he gets fucked over..
Men can not win in any given situation.
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May 18 2013 07:52am
Quote (kayeto @ May 18 2013 03:37pm)
or responsibilities?


child support?
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May 18 2013 07:57am
Quote (Lifebane99 @ May 18 2013 08:50am)
But if she decides to keep it against his will, he has to pay child support.
If she decides to kill it against his will he gets fucked over..
Men can not win in any given situation.


He made the decision when he decided to raw dog and bail broski. Say what you will but pulling out has been 100% effective for me for over a decade. I can count the times I didn't, and they're running around my living room bugging me for cereal and stuff this morning.

Whether or not the man gets fucked over is contingent on the man's feelings on wanting children or not. I guess if having a kid = getting fucked over then the meaning of life is apparently to get fucked over.

You have a personal responsibility to watch where you put your dick and whether or not you want to leave it in there or wear a condom. That is an active decision. Don't act as if it isn't.

Do they not teach sexual education in Australia? Procreation would have to be a complete mystery to somebody to believe that men have no free will into the matter.

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He made the decision when he decided to raw dog and bail broski.  Say what you will but pulling out has been 100% effective for me for over a decade.  I can count the times I didn't, and they're running around my living room bugging me for cereal and stuff this morning.

Whether or not the man gets fucked over is contingent on the man's feelings on wanting children or not.  I guess if having a kid = getting fucked over then the meaning of life is apparently to get fucked over.

You have a personal responsibility to watch where you put your dick and whether or not you want to leave it in there or wear a condom.  That is an active decision.  Don't act as if it isn't.

Do they not teach sexual education in Australia?  Procreation would have to be a complete mystery to somebody to believe that men have no free will into the matter.


Pull out method is great if you want to be a dad.
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May 18 2013 07:58am
Quote (kayeto @ May 18 2013 07:37am)
or responsibilities?


Yes, they carry similar responsibilities, e.g., caring for the child, supporting the child financially, often by legal force, etc., Men not only do not get to make a conscious decision about whether their child lives or dies after insemination but they also get punished in most legal scenarios.

Also, men do not have as many contraception options as women, there is no male pill yet, vasectomy is hard to reverse and condoms can be unreliable, even nullified (without punishment) by women seeking an 'accidental' pregnancy without both parties giving consent.

I see what this man did as no worse than an abortion, though I am against abortion in its entirety, I believe that this should be treated the same way as an abortion is treated legally in reversed circumstances. If this cannot be upheld with full consideration of the reverse than abortion should also be banned.
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May 18 2013 07:59am
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He has the right to pull out or wear a condom.  But no, one human being doesn't have a right over another human being's body.  Those days are long over Mr. Natural law.


You are against abortion too then?
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May 18 2013 08:00am
Lol dude tells me to go to sex ed and in the same sentence advocates the spray and pray method.
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