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May 3 2013 07:50pm
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/piracy-are-we-being-conned-20110322-1c4cs.html
The content industry is going to ridiculous lengths to make up loss figures to try to justify a war on piracy, recent studies have shown piracy actually helps most economies and that the losses being reported by the content industry is a load of crap.
Companies unwilling to evolve to meet the digital era are still stuck trying to peddle cd's and complaining that no one is buying their outdated crap.
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May 3 2013 07:55pm
Tell that to the video game industry which has all but collasped on for the PC because of piracy. Large companies have either stopped making games on the computer, wattered them down so they're just an afterthough, or put in punishing DRM to stop it. Smaller companies have either gone bankrupt, moved to microtransactions or have resorted to community driven ways to generate revenue (Like Kickstarter).

Piracy may not be a problem for the television or film industry, but the next major media type is the video game industry, which has had it's growth ground to halt after it looked like it was going to become the most valuable of the three.
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May 3 2013 08:00pm
Quote (Caedus @ May 4 2013 11:55am)
Tell that to the video game industry which has all but collasped on for the PC because of piracy. Large companies have either stopped making games on the computer, wattered them down so they're just an afterthough, or put in punishing DRM to stop it. Smaller companies have either gone bankrupt, moved to microtransactions or have resorted to community driven ways to generate revenue (Like Kickstarter).

Piracy may not be a problem for the television or film industry, but the next major media type is the video game industry, which has had it's growth ground to halt after it looked like it was going to become the most valuable of the three.


Herrp derrp "The COntant inderstry is failin bercuz of tha mean piratz so thay hve hed to evolve exacytly lieke lifebane99 sed"
No shit, no one wants to buy a fucking cd anymore.
Steam is turning over massive profits, kickstarter projects are bringing out something we have not seen for years ORIGINAL EXCITING CONTENT.
Piracy is the best thing that ever happened to pc gaming.
Oh no, no more call of duty?
Thank god for that.
God forbid we actually have games that are not the 16th identical game in a row with a few slight changes.

EVERY game i am looking forward to right now was kickstarted or put on steam or a similar system, or released DRM FREE on good old games.
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May 3 2013 08:02pm
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Herrp derrp "The COntant inderstry is failin bercuz of tha mean piratz so thay hve hed to evolve exacytly lieke lifebane99 sed"
No shit, no one wants to buy a fucking cd anymore.
Steam is turning over massive profits, kickstarter projects are bringing out something we have not seen for years ORIGINAL EXCITING CONTENT.
Piracy is the best thing that ever happened to pc gaming.
Oh no, no more call of duty?
Thank god for that.
God forbid we actually have games that are not the 16th identical game in a row with a few slight changes.

EVERY game i am looking forward to right now was kickstarted or put on steam or a similar system, or released DRM FREE on good old games.


Kick starter is whats bringing Sir Schmoopy of Awesometon to the vidja game world!

aka UNFORGOTTEN REAAAALMMSSSSS
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Kick starter is whats bringing Sir Schmoopy of Awesometon to the vidja game world!

aka UNFORGOTTEN REAAAALMMSSSSS


Now watching this, already laughing.
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May 3 2013 08:07pm
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Now watching this, already laughing.


long ass series, but after the first season the episodes start becoming really short. But its actually a pretty good show. And the game is going to be pretty awesome. The guy is huge on fan input.
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May 3 2013 08:08pm
Quote (Caedus @ May 3 2013 05:55pm)
Tell that to the video game industry which has all but collasped on for the PC because of piracy. Large companies have either stopped making games on the computer, wattered them down so they're just an afterthough, or put in punishing DRM to stop it. Smaller companies have either gone bankrupt, moved to microtransactions or have resorted to community driven ways to generate revenue (Like Kickstarter).

Piracy may not be a problem for the television or film industry, but the next major media type is the video game industry, which has had it's growth ground to halt after it looked like it was going to become the most valuable of the three.


So much this.

People who pirate games should be forced to purchase the game.
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May 3 2013 08:11pm
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Herrp derrp "The COntant inderstry is failin bercuz of tha mean piratz so thay hve hed to evolve exacytly lieke lifebane99 sed"
No shit, no one wants to buy a fucking cd anymore.
Steam is turning over massive profits, kickstarter projects are bringing out something we have not seen for years ORIGINAL EXCITING CONTENT.
Piracy is the best thing that ever happened to pc gaming.
Oh no, no more call of duty?
Thank god for that.
God forbid we actually have games that are not the 16th identical game in a row with a few slight changes.

EVERY game i am looking forward to right now was kickstarted or put on steam or a similar system, or released DRM FREE on good old games.


This does absolutely nothing to disprove my point. You point out games that were never really meant for the PC crowd anyway, like Call of Duty. How about Grand Theft Auto? Four was one of the most critically aclaimed games ever, and Rockstar assigned it's PC version to a secondary team, at a secondary studio. Rockstar Toronto did GTA IV on PC and their main team didn't even work on it. They probably threw 10 interns at it and said we'll give you a raise to port this. They don't care, because piracy destorys their profits. Their next big game never even came out on PC, and GTA V likely will not either.

Stream is a content distributor, and the company behind them, Valve, has slowed down the production of their great games because piracy makes the profits not worth it, and they can make money off other developers. Kickstarter may be great for smaller companies, but it's an example of how bad a shape the video game industry is in. Analysts have predicted the industry will shift from big $40-70 titles to mobile based games that even if they are pirated make money from the advertisting within, and the microtransactions they have.

Piracy is destroying an industry that looked unstoppable 5 years ago. Piracy is one of the reasons cookie cutter games guarenteed to sell 10+ million copies are being released evey year. Estimates put the % of games on PC that are pirated at over 40% on the low end, and much higher on the high end.

This post was edited by Caedus on May 3 2013 08:12pm
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This does absolutely nothing to disprove my point. You point out games that were never really meant for the PC crowd anyway, like Call of Duty. How about Grand Theft Auto? Four was one of the most critically aclaimed games ever, and Rockstar assigned it's PC version to a secondary team, at a secondary studio. Rockstar Toronto did GTA IV on PC and their main team didn't even work on it. They probably threw 10 interns at it and said we'll give you a raise to port this. They don't care, because piracy destorys their profits. Their next big game never even came out on PC, and GTA V likely will not either.

Stream is a content distributor, and the company behind them, Valve, has slowed down the production of their great games because piracy makes the profits not worth it, and they can make money off other developers. Kickstarter may be great for smaller companies, but it's an example of how bad a shape the video game industry is in. Analysts have predicted the industry will shift from big $40-70 titles to mobile based games that even if they are pirated make money from the advertisting within, and the microtransactions they have.

Piracy is destroying an industry that looked unstoppable 5 years ago. Piracy is one of the reasons cookie cutter games guarenteed to sell 10+ million copies are being released evey year. Estimates put the % of games on PC that are pirated at over 40% on the low end, and much higher on the high end.

You forget to mention that gta 3 fucking sucked on pc, so did vice city..
Rockstar had already made them console ports, keep reaching buddy.
Every one is still recording profits, every one who evolved anyway, people still trying to peddle boxed garbage are losing money.
Those "analysts" are told what conclusion to reach before they even start to look..
I just posted an article that tells you that the recorded losses are fucking made up.

This post was edited by Lifebane99 on May 3 2013 08:16pm
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May 3 2013 08:15pm
Quote (thundercock @ May 3 2013 09:08pm)
So much this.

People who pirate games should be forced to purchase the game.


I don't mind playing a game with while forced to be wearing a pirate hat.

But honestly, if they want to QQ so much then they just need to become creative like the Game Dev Tycoon makers did.

They released their own pirated copy for kids to dl, and halfway through the game it forces your game company to slowly become bankrupt due to piracy of your game.
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