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Nov 5 2012 03:39pm
Hello,

If you are a truth seeker, you will like this book : The Present (with religion) http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-with-religion/

I can't explain it better than the autor so I'll quote him :

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Newton and Einstein were great scientists and great mystics. Science and religion have different pieces to the puzzle. Until now, no one has united religion and science. People had to choose between tradition and truth. We need both.

What if the Bible and all other religious books are being misinterpreted?

What if the truth is in the Bible and many other religious books, but no one knows what it is? This book uses science, philosophy, religion, and art to reveal the unseen truth. It shows that most of the great prophets, philosophers, and poets are saying the same thing, but almost no one knows what it is.

Jesus is saying something completely different than what Christians think.

Religious books are not just filled with myths and morality tales as many people believe. The truth is in them; they are just being misinterpreted by religions.

The new interpretation will be the best thing that ever happened to religion.
Religions will make sense, and people will be able to understand them for the first time. This will make religions much more popular than they have ever been. Traditional religions will not change much; people will just see the truth in them.

Religion without the truth is like a light bulb without electricity. With the truth, religions will be reborn, and there will be an explosion in spiritual growth. Religions will no longer be based just on blind faith.

Just the truth: The truth about life and death can be explained without any reference to religion, and some people may prefer that, but more than half of the human race is involved in a religion. Thus, to be the ultimate explanation of the truth, it must include religion, all religions. This is the only way to unite us all.

Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein


You do not have to be smart to know the truth, but you do have to be rational, be honest, and know a few things that could not be known until now.


If you do not like religions, there is a version of this book without any reference to religion : http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-universal-truth/

I do not want to debate about truth, this is not the purpose of this thread... There is actually nothing to debate about (2+2=4 no matter what you think), the purpose of this thread is to share truthful things I found (or you found).
So, on this thread I will mostly post quotes from The Present (with or without religion), or interresting (truthful) music/videos/quotes (from other sources) that I find.
If you also have some truthful things to share, it is open of course.

Just to be clear, the question is not do I (Eti_fr), or the autor of The Present know the truth.
The question is do YOU know the truth ?
If you do, I do not have anything to learn to you, because that would mean you are more aware of the truth/life than me (I do not know the truth).
If you do not, do YOU want to know the truth, to face reality ?
If you do, I know you will like those books I linked you.
If you do not --> ok, it is not a big deal, most human beings do not want to face reality yet, I do not judge anyone... Just try to keep this thread clean so I do not have to repost again and again (I will).

I will not debate about the result of 2+2 in this thread, you are free to open your own thread (and pm me link) if you want, I will be happy to answer your question there.
Anything that is not a constructive post to help people learn the truth will be considered as free bump, I will not answer these posts anymore on this thread.
If you have any question, pm me, I always make sure I have room in my pm box... and answer as soon as I have time.

The purpose of this thread is to help people to get up, stand up and unite... and fight the lies and illusions with truth as weapon... nothing more.

Just to be clear, the truth contest (where I found these books) is not a religion.
I post in Political And Religious Discussion, because The Present (with religion) explains how religions are currently divided and each religion interpret his holy book in a bad way, and it proposes an interpretation that could unite religions... and whole mankind.
You may ask yourself why I post this here if it is not subject to debate ?
Well as I said it is open, if you have anything that could help me and any truth seeker to learn new things about truth/life/the present you are more than welcome to post here.
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Nov 5 2012 03:40pm
Quote (Eti_fr @ Nov 5 2012 05:39pm)
Hello,

If you are a truth seeker, you will like this book : The Present (with religion) http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-with-religion/

I can't explain it better than the autor so I'll quote him :



If you do not like religions, there is a version of this book without any reference to religion : http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-universal-truth/

I do not want to debate about truth, this is not the purpose of this thread... There is actually nothing to debate about (2+2=4 no matter what you think), the purpose of this thread is to share truthful things I found (or you found).
So, on this thread I will mostly post quotes from The Present (with or without religion), or interresting (truthful) music/videos/quotes (from other sources) that I find.
If you also have some truthful things to share, it is open of course.

Just to be clear, the question is not do I (Eti_fr), or the autor of The Present know the truth.
The question is do YOU know the truth ?
If you do, I do not have anything to learn to you, because that would mean you are more aware of the truth/life than me (I do not know the truth).
If you do not, do YOU want to know the truth, to face reality ?
If you do, I know you will like those books I linked you.
If you do not --> ok, it is not a big deal, most human beings do not want to face reality yet, I do not judge anyone... Just try to keep this thread clean so I do not have to repost again and again (I will).

I will not debate about the result of 2+2 in this thread, you are free to open your own thread (and pm me link) if you want, I will be happy to answer your question there.
Anything that is not a constructive post to help people learn the truth will be considered as free bump, I will not answer these posts anymore on this thread.
If you have any question, pm me, I always make sure I have room in my pm box... and answer as soon as I have time.

The purpose of this thread is to help people to get up, stand up and unite... and fight the lies and illusions with truth as weapon... nothing more.

Just to be clear, the truth contest (where I found these books) is not a religion.
I post in Political And Religious Discussion, because The Present (with religion) explains how religions are currently divided and each religion interpret his holy book in a bad way, and it proposes an interpretation that could unite religions... and whole mankind.
You may ask yourself why I post this here if it is not subject to debate ?
Well as I said it is open, if you have anything that could help me and any truth seeker to learn new things about truth/life/the present you are more than welcome to post here.


TL;DR

So you have PRESENTS for everyone?!?!?!
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Nov 5 2012 03:49pm
Ive been trying to post things to help you/any of your "fellow truth seekers" however your u unwillingness to openly discuss your "truth" or this topic of "truth" illustrates your hypocrisy. Your mind is not open, because you are not open to testing and scrutinizing these ideas, engaging in critical dialogue and philosophical discussion. The point isnt to debate abstract mathematical "truths" but this other conception of truth you speak of.

Keep reposting, your unwillingness to engage shows either your inability to or the weakness of the ideas you have.
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Nov 5 2012 03:51pm
Quote (mike14e @ Nov 5 2012 04:49pm)
Ive been trying to post things to help you/any of your "fellow truth seekers" however your u unwillingness to openly discuss your "truth" or this topic of "truth" illustrates your hypocrisy. Your mind is not open, because you are not open to testing and scrutinizing these ideas, engaging in critical dialogue and philosophical discussion. The point isnt to debate abstract mathematical "truths" but this other conception of truth you speak of.

Keep reposting, your unwillingness to engage shows either your inability to or the weakness of the ideas you have.


I cannot begin to explain to you how backwards your post. Try reading it as though you wrote it to yourself.
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Nov 5 2012 03:51pm
Hard work over time to accomplish skill. A painter can have kung-fu. Or the butcher who cuts meat every day with such skill his knife never touches bone. Learn the form, but seek the formless. Hear the soundless. Learn it all, then forget it all. Learn The Way, then find your own way. The musician can have kung-fu, or the poet who paints pictures with words and makes emperors weep. This, too, is kung-fu. But do not name it, my friend, for it is like water. Nothing is softer than water yet it can overcome rock. It does not fight. It flows around the opponent. Formless, nameless, the true master dwells within. Only you can free him.
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Nov 5 2012 03:52pm
Reminds me of godlessdeity.
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Nov 5 2012 03:52pm
Quote (Cannabist @ Nov 5 2012 05:51pm)
I cannot begin to explain to you how backwards your post. Try reading it as though you wrote it to yourself.


? Theres some typos bc im on my iPhone, otherwise its fine.
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Nov 5 2012 03:54pm
Quote (mike14e @ Nov 5 2012 04:52pm)
? Theres some typos bc im on my iPhone, otherwise its fine.


I wasn't even addressing the typos.
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Nov 5 2012 03:56pm
Quote (Cannabist @ Nov 5 2012 05:54pm)
I wasn't even addressing the typos.


Im sorry you don't understand it, maybe you should stick to easier topics.
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Nov 5 2012 03:56pm
Quote (Cannabist @ Nov 5 2012 04:51pm)
I cannot begin to explain to you how backwards your post. Try reading it as though you wrote it to yourself.


I've read it a couple times and I understand what he is saying.
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